Dave, I would hope that you are applying the SECINT PTFs more frequently than twice a year!
Bob -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 11:20 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken) Yea, I've been watching the software installation feature of z/OSMF grow. I am not yet a believer, honestly, for the same reasons I am not a believer in CA's MSM either. In the grand scheme of things, the actual act of installing software and/or maintenance is pretty miniscule compared to everything else we do. Maybe if you are a one-man show at your shop, it would help. I wouldn't say we are overstaffed, but we do consciously install software maintenance just two times per year(not including the occasional PTF to fix a problem), that I don't see that much benefit to using this. If I spend more than a couple hours a couple times a year downloading/applying maintenance I would call it excessive. To me, it seems like a lot of effort went into designing/building something that has limited efficiency savings. I guess the goal is to get to the point of double clicking on setup.exe just like in windows.....sigh... _________________________________________________________________ Dave Jousma Manager Mainframe Engineering, Assistant Vice President [email protected] 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB2H p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.2717 -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pommier, Rex Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 11:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken) Coming soon to a mainframe near you: Software installation becomes next-->next-->next-->install. :-) Rex -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Eells Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 8:09 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements for today appear to be broken) The links appear to be working now. I hope that only minimal reading between the lines is needed to make it clear where we're going with product installation on the z/OS platform. It's been quite a journey to get this far, and we've had the help of dozens of other software vendors. We overuse the word "transform" a lot. So I will say instead that collectively we have an exciting opportunity to transmogrify the installation process for products on the z/OS platform into something a lot better. (Did I really say "exciting"? Me? Yep.) We now have an SMP/E-agnostic product packager, installer, and deployment manager built into z/OS V2.2's z/OSMF Software Management functions; it's part of the operating system now. We have the ability to export software instances and use them as input to a deployment operation. We plan new APIs to let you create and export software instances from a program, too. And, we plan to build infrastructure into ServerPac's ordering and delivery systems so that ServerPac can support products that are not packaged using SMP/E. *Whoa*! Don't panic. This DOES NOT signal that IBM will move everything out of SMP/E management. There are no plans to change the packaging for products that really need SMP/E or something just like it. But, Software Management now supports non-SMP/E-packaged products too. If I get approved, and if the session is accepted, I'll be talking about this more, and expanding on IBM's future directions for installation, at SHARE in San Jose. There might be another related session, as well. Stay tuned... There's other cool stuff in the z/OS announcement, too. The SMF analytics support bears directly on recent discussions here. Go look! (Watch the wrap.) https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=AN&subtype=CA&htmlfid=897/ENUS216-392&appname=USN -- John Eells IBM Poughkeepsie [email protected] The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. 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