As part of the group that contributed to this, let me say that you can sigh
at "click on setup.exe" but the fact is that the mainframe is facing a labor
crisis. If I were the CEO of a software vendor, what would I tell my
shareholders when they asked "what are you going to sell when there is no
one at the customer who can install your stuff?" As a vendor, we feel this
pressure already: it's not (yet?) that no one can install our stuff --
instead it is "we don't have anyone available to install your stuff for at
least six weeks." You can imagine how much a commissioned salesperson likes
to hear that!

And yes, you can say there would not be a labor crisis if mainframe shops
were willing to pay and train more, but we live in the world we live in, not
the world we would like to live in. As a software vendor I cannot change
global corporate mentality, but by gum, I can change how our software
installs.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Jousma, David
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 8:20 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Installation Improvements (was Re: Links to IBM announcements
for today appear to be broken)

Yea, I've been watching the software installation feature of z/OSMF grow.
I am not yet a believer, honestly, for the same reasons I am not a believer
in CA's MSM either.    In the grand scheme of things, the actual act of
installing software and/or maintenance is pretty miniscule compared to
everything else we do.   Maybe if you are a one-man show at your shop, it
would help.   I wouldn't say we are overstaffed, but we do consciously
install software maintenance just two times per year(not including the
occasional PTF to fix a problem), that I don't see that much benefit to
using this.  If I spend more than a couple hours a couple times a year
downloading/applying maintenance I would call it excessive.  To me, it seems
like a lot of effort went into designing/building something that has limited
efficiency savings.   I guess the goal is to get to the point of double
clicking on setup.exe just like in windows.....sigh...

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