Notwithstanding as adamant as I previously was, different jobs and tasks do call for different levels of personal interaction. A symphony can hardly be performed with everyone working remotely; conversely, it could hardly be created by anyone not completely free of distraction and interaction.
So far as I can tell. I'm hardly qualified to listen to a symphony, much less either of the above. sas On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Doug Fuerst <[email protected]> wrote: > Amen to all of this. It is far more productive to work from home. And I > have never had an issue in collaboration with my colleagues; we have > managed to collaborate no matter the distances involved between us. > And from the employer standpoint, most of us these days are older, and > less prone to up and move wherever for a 6 or 12 month project. We are > older, have ties to our communities, and are just not as likely to move > around as at least I was in the past. > > > Doug > [email protected] > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "zMan" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: 25-May-17 1:41:54 PM > Subject: Re: Looks like lots of folks in marketing said thanks but no > thanks > > I hear the "Oh, I don't think I could work at home" all the time. I just >> smile and say "It's not for everyone", but what I hear them saying is >> "Damn, I wish my job let me do that!" >> >> Mind you, after 15 years, I'm pretty used to it. >> >> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Burrell, Todd <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I've always said that if you think you need someone in the office so you >>> can make sure they are working - then you hired the wrong person. Bad >>> employees will goof off whether they are in the office or at home. And I >>> get a LOT more done from home than I ever do in the office because there >>> are no distractions at home like at the office. >>> >>> And the old "water cooler" argument about learning a lot from >>> discussions >>> in the office has a little merit, but not much. Most of the times these >>> discussions quickly wonder off into personal discussions. >>> >>> Todd Burrell | Sr. Mainframe Systems Administrator >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Steve Smith >>> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:44 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Looks like lots of folks in marketing said thanks but no >>> thanks >>> >>> 1. Purely imaginary. Besides being too random to be useful, those >>> "meetings" are about family, dogs, and favourite comedies. Business >>> interaction is often better facilitated with electronic communication >>> (see >>> your #3). >>> 2. Purely imaginary. You cannot "see" much of anything. A manager's job >>> is to get results, not to baby-sit (monitor) their team. If the manager >>> hires people who need to be constantly supervised, well then, that's on >>> the >>> manager. >>> 3. Agreed. Every office I've worked in was apparently designed to >>> prevent >>> me from concentrating on anything. I'm far, far more productive in my >>> quiet, distraction-free home office. >>> >>> I also liked going to the office (mostly), and seeing everyone. But I >>> was >>> able to actually work maybe 50% of the time there. >>> >>> sas >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:57 AM, Radoslaw Skorupka < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > Well, it is not my company, so let's leave the decision to the owners >>> > and managers they hired. >>> > >>> > However if it was my company I would demand to be present in the >>> office. >>> > Some well justified exceptions apply, but mostly temporarily, and >>> > everytime final decision would belong to managers, not employees. >>> > >>> > Reasons? >>> > 1. Meetings at the coffee point (and other places) is very big >>> > opportunity to exchange ideas, thoughts, opinions. >>> > 2. It is much easier to see and control how the emploee spends a time >>> > - is he really busy as declared? No timesheet replace it. >>> > 3. Some people do work more effectively when they have no external >>> > "disturbants" (a dog, neighbour, postman, favourite comedy on TV...) >>> > >>> > BTW: most of my co-workers claim they absolutely prefer to work in the >>> > office, with the team. >>> > BTW2: multi-site office is still better than home working, We do have >>> > good video-chat systems for in conference rooms, except personal a/v >>> > equipment in every PC. >>> > >>> > My 0,02€ >>> > >>> > -- >>> > R.Skorupka >>> > Lodz, Poland >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> ---------- >>> > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >>> > email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> sas >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send >>> email >>> to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN >>> >>> >>> >>> This email transmission and any accompanying attachments may contain CSX >>> privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the >>> intended addressee. 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