Bruce,
That's what I thought WRT z/OSMF. We ship a turnkey Apache Tomcat server
but our servlet WARs and native code run fine in WLP. But there
are license issues. Having a WLP instance that we can deploy into would
dramatically reduce the footprint of our product if we want to integrate
with Zowe. I really do hope that IBM will be willing to provide a free
to use servlet container for vendors to deploy their products into.
On 17/08/2018 6:42 PM, Bruce Armstrong wrote:
David - deploying into the z/OSMF Liberty instance is a no-no as it is
part of the z/OS operating system and IBM wants to control what runs there
for support reasons/security, etc. (I think there maybe be T&Cs that limit
what runs there. I have not dug into the specifics to know if there is any
signing of the code or technical limits.)
We are looking at how we can provide extensibility of the Zowe Explorer
instance. Explorer code is running on Liberty for z/OS. There is nothing
technically preventing things from running there that I am aware. The
nuances of that is better asked in the slack channel. I don't want to
play lawyer too much here. We want to provide extensibility of that
Liberty but we need to ensure what runs there is Zowe-related processing.
Bruce Armstrong
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From: David Crayford <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: 08/17/2018 06:12 AM
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Zowe install woes
Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]>
On 17/08/2018 4:27 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote:
You can use the files, data sets, and jobs services in Zowe without
z/OSMF
?
I don't think so. There's nothing wrong the the z/OSMF APIs it's the UI
that people don't like.
We've got a new product with a REST API that's basically a JAX-RS Java
servlet calling JNI code. Doe's this new open mainframe
initiative mean we can deploy our servlet into z/OSMF or the explorer
server shipped with Zowe? I suppose that's a question
better asked on the Slack channel.
On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:43 AM, David Crayford <[email protected]>
wrote:
I think it is worthwhile. I can understand why you are dubious WRT
previous experiences with z/OSMF but Zowe looks different. It's using
cutting edge JavaScript frameworks like Angular for the UI which comes
from
Google. They have
embraced open source and I've checked out the github repo and it looks
good. Let's face it, recreating ISPF using HTML was a bad idea! But
this is
hopefully a new direction. I'm still confused what is
free and what you have to pay for. the zLUX UI has a 3270 emulator but
it
appears that you need a library from Rocket which I assume comes from
their
3270 emulation suite (commerical).
Vendors don't want to give away money spinning products do they? Most
of
us will stick to our emulator of choice anyway.
On 16/08/2018 7:32 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote:
Tried to look at it from the office and our firewall blocks it ☹
I did read up on it and my 1st impressions are that it is yet another
attempt to create a new system management interface utilizing z/OSMF
and
provide the tools/parts for anyone to build them. Is this worthwhile -
I'm
not sure yet. Replacing a sub-second response interface using TN3270
with a
multi-second web interface (based on experience using z/OSMF ISPF
option)
does not seem like a step in the right direction.
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Zowe install woes
Lots of buzz about Zowe [1] at SHARE this week and first impressions
are
overwhelmingly positive. It looks like a great initiative to modernize
the
mainframe without tubby Eclipse. We downloaded the beta but it was
missing
parts, most importantly installation scripts so it's a bit of a
anti-climax.
Has anybody
managed to install Zowe successfully?
[1]
https://zowe.org
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