Zowe is open source ......it uses z/OSMF (which runs on Liberty and is not open to additional uses)......Zowe ships a copy of Liberty and we are working on how to allow extensions to run in the Zowe supplied Liberty.
Zowe also ships a node.js server and we are also working on how that can be used. Zowe has an open beta today - that open beta contains both Liberty and node.js instances. Zowe open source is rolling out in stages over the coming months. We still are working on whether node.js is included in Zowe or will be a pre-req. And if a pre-req how will it be acquired. Bruce Armstrong IBM System Z Offering Manager- zowe.org 4205 S MIAMI BLVD, DURHAM NC 27703-9141 Email: armst...@us.ibm.com Tel: 919-254-8773 Cell: 919-931-3132 From: Kirk Wolf <k...@wolf-associates.com> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 08/17/2018 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Zowe install woes Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> Bruce, I'm not sure that I understand - Zowe is open-source, but it must run in z/OSMF Liberty and you aren't free to deploy your own code there ? On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:42 AM, Bruce Armstrong <armst...@us.ibm.com> wrote: > David - deploying into the z/OSMF Liberty instance is a no-no as it is > > part of the z/OS operating system and IBM wants to control what runs there > > for support reasons/security, etc. (I think there maybe be T&Cs that limit > > what runs there. I have not dug into the specifics to know if there is any > > signing of the code or technical limits.) > > > > We are looking at how we can provide extensibility of the Zowe Explorer > > instance. Explorer code is running on Liberty for z/OS. There is nothing > > technically preventing things from running there that I am aware. The > > nuances of that is better asked in the slack channel. I don't want to > > play lawyer too much here. We want to provide extensibility of that > > Liberty but we need to ensure what runs there is Zowe-related processing. > > > > > > > > Bruce Armstrong > > IBM System Z Offering Manager- zowe.org > > 4205 S MIAMI BLVD, DURHAM NC 27703-9141 > > Email: armst...@us.ibm.com > > Tel: 919-254-8773 > > Cell: 919-931-3132 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Date: 08/17/2018 06:12 AM > > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Zowe install woes > > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > > > > > > > > On 17/08/2018 4:27 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote: > > > You can use the files, data sets, and jobs services in Zowe without > > z/OSMF > > > ? > > > > > > I don't think so. There's nothing wrong the the z/OSMF APIs it's the UI > > that people don't like. > > > > We've got a new product with a REST API that's basically a JAX-RS Java > > servlet calling JNI code. Doe's this new open mainframe > > initiative mean we can deploy our servlet into z/OSMF or the explorer > > server shipped with Zowe? I suppose that's a question > > better asked on the Slack channel. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:43 AM, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >> I think it is worthwhile. I can understand why you are dubious WRT > > >> previous experiences with z/OSMF but Zowe looks different. It's using > > >> cutting edge JavaScript frameworks like Angular for the UI which comes > > from > > >> Google. They have > > >> embraced open source and I've checked out the github repo and it looks > > >> good. Let's face it, recreating ISPF using HTML was a bad idea! But > > this is > > >> hopefully a new direction. I'm still confused what is > > >> free and what you have to pay for. the zLUX UI has a 3270 emulator but > > it > > >> appears that you need a library from Rocket which I assume comes from > > their > > >> 3270 emulation suite (commerical). > > >> Vendors don't want to give away money spinning products do they? Most > > of > > >> us will stick to our emulator of choice anyway. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 16/08/2018 7:32 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote: > > >> > > >>> Tried to look at it from the office and our firewall blocks it ☹ > > >>> > > >>> I did read up on it and my 1st impressions are that it is yet another > > >>> attempt to create a new system management interface utilizing z/OSMF > > and > > >>> provide the tools/parts for anyone to build them. Is this worthwhile - > > I'm > > >>> not sure yet. Replacing a sub-second response interface using TN3270 > > with a > > >>> multi-second web interface (based on experience using z/OSMF ISPF > > option) > > >>> does not seem like a step in the right direction. > > >>> > > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>> -------------- > > >>> Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) <sdg>< > > >>> Mainframe Systems Programmer – RavenTek Solution Partners > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU ] > > On > > >>> Behalf Of David Crayford > > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:27 AM > > >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > >>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Zowe install woes > > >>> > > >>> Lots of buzz about Zowe [1] at SHARE this week and first impressions > > are > > >>> overwhelmingly positive. It looks like a great initiative to modernize > > the > > >>> mainframe without tubby Eclipse. We downloaded the beta but it was > > missing > > >>> parts, most importantly installation scripts so it's a bit of a > > anti-climax. > > >>> Has anybody > > >>> managed to install Zowe successfully? > > >>> > > >>> [1] > > https://zowe.org > > > > >>> > > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > >>> email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > >>> > > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > >>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > >>> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
