Bruce, I'm not sure that I understand -
Zowe is open-source, but it must run in z/OSMF Liberty and you aren't free to deploy your own code there ? On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 5:42 AM, Bruce Armstrong <armst...@us.ibm.com> wrote: > David - deploying into the z/OSMF Liberty instance is a no-no as it is > > part of the z/OS operating system and IBM wants to control what runs there > > for support reasons/security, etc. (I think there maybe be T&Cs that limit > > what runs there. I have not dug into the specifics to know if there is any > > signing of the code or technical limits.) > > > > We are looking at how we can provide extensibility of the Zowe Explorer > > instance. Explorer code is running on Liberty for z/OS. There is nothing > > technically preventing things from running there that I am aware. The > > nuances of that is better asked in the slack channel. I don't want to > > play lawyer too much here. We want to provide extensibility of that > > Liberty but we need to ensure what runs there is Zowe-related processing. > > > > > > > > Bruce Armstrong > > IBM System Z Offering Manager- zowe.org > > 4205 S MIAMI BLVD, DURHAM NC 27703-9141 > > Email: armst...@us.ibm.com > > Tel: 919-254-8773 > > Cell: 919-931-3132 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > Date: 08/17/2018 06:12 AM > > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Zowe install woes > > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> > > > > > > > > On 17/08/2018 4:27 AM, Kirk Wolf wrote: > > > You can use the files, data sets, and jobs services in Zowe without > > z/OSMF > > > ? > > > > > > I don't think so. There's nothing wrong the the z/OSMF APIs it's the UI > > that people don't like. > > > > We've got a new product with a REST API that's basically a JAX-RS Java > > servlet calling JNI code. Doe's this new open mainframe > > initiative mean we can deploy our servlet into z/OSMF or the explorer > > server shipped with Zowe? I suppose that's a question > > better asked on the Slack channel. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 6:43 AM, David Crayford <dcrayf...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >> I think it is worthwhile. I can understand why you are dubious WRT > > >> previous experiences with z/OSMF but Zowe looks different. It's using > > >> cutting edge JavaScript frameworks like Angular for the UI which comes > > from > > >> Google. They have > > >> embraced open source and I've checked out the github repo and it looks > > >> good. Let's face it, recreating ISPF using HTML was a bad idea! But > > this is > > >> hopefully a new direction. I'm still confused what is > > >> free and what you have to pay for. the zLUX UI has a 3270 emulator but > > it > > >> appears that you need a library from Rocket which I assume comes from > > their > > >> 3270 emulation suite (commerical). > > >> Vendors don't want to give away money spinning products do they? Most > > of > > >> us will stick to our emulator of choice anyway. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> On 16/08/2018 7:32 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (RavenTek) wrote: > > >> > > >>> Tried to look at it from the office and our firewall blocks it ☹ > > >>> > > >>> I did read up on it and my 1st impressions are that it is yet another > > >>> attempt to create a new system management interface utilizing z/OSMF > > and > > >>> provide the tools/parts for anyone to build them. Is this worthwhile - > > I'm > > >>> not sure yet. Replacing a sub-second response interface using TN3270 > > with a > > >>> multi-second web interface (based on experience using z/OSMF ISPF > > option) > > >>> does not seem like a step in the right direction. > > >>> > > >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ > > >>> -------------- > > >>> Lionel B. Dyck (Contractor) <sdg>< > > >>> Mainframe Systems Programmer – RavenTek Solution Partners > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] > > On > > >>> Behalf Of David Crayford > > >>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 6:27 AM > > >>> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > > >>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Zowe install woes > > >>> > > >>> Lots of buzz about Zowe [1] at SHARE this week and first impressions > > are > > >>> overwhelmingly positive. It looks like a great initiative to modernize > > the > > >>> mainframe without tubby Eclipse. We downloaded the beta but it was > > missing > > >>> parts, most importantly installation scripts so it's a bit of a > > anti-climax. > > >>> Has anybody > > >>> managed to install Zowe successfully? > > >>> > > >>> [1] > > https://zowe.org > > > > >>> > > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send > > >>> email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > >>> > > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > >>> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > >>> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > >> send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
