Mike, That's all well and good for an ISV such as yourself who has the freedom to use whatever debugging tools you choose to use, but what are programmers in non-ISV shops without application programmer access to IPCS supposed to do?
z/XDC is a wonderful interactive debugging tool with which I am quite familiar, but it's not so helpful for ordinary HLL interactive debugging (other than Colesoft's very fine c/XDC, to which I do not have access) except in very complex debugging tasks not covered by ISV interactive products. I haven't touched TSO TEST in umpty-ump decades and probably wouldn't use it even if offered the opportunity. In my experience it was a real bear to use, especially compared to z/XDC today. FWIW, I had to debug a quite complex assembler / BTAM / multitasking application running under the MVS of the day using only TSO TEST at a client site in another country. Got the job done, but definitely not an experience I ever wish to repeat. Peter -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Shaw Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:48 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: 64-bit application dump analysis [was: RE: Problems with ESTAEX invoked in AMODE 64 . . . ] EXTERNAL EMAIL On 3/26/2020 12:11 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: > Peter, > > If SYSABEND and SYSUDUMP don't now and aren't likely to support 64-bit > storage in the future, then what are application programmers coding 64-bit > programs (well, 31-bit resident code that uses 64-bit storage areas, to be > specific) supposed to use for abend debugging? IPCS? ISV products? <snip> Yes. An ESTAE(X), IEATDUMP to dump the storage from the ESTAE(X) exit, and IPCS to analyze it. We have been doing that for our non-APF authorized application that runs AMODE(64) since z/OS V1R12. z/XDC or TSO/E TEST command for interactive debugging. Mike Shaw MVS/QuickRef Support Group Chicago-Soft, Ltd. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the addressee and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of the message is not the intended recipient or an authorized representative of the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your system. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
