I acknowledged that no one knew how to debug SYSUDUMPs without training. More? Less? Hard to say of course.
No, what I am saying is that if your people already know how to use SYSUDUMP but not IPCS, then IPCS training is a hurdle (and SYSUDUMP training is not). Charles -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 12:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 64-bit application dump analysis [was: RE: Problems with ESTAEX invoked in AMODE 64 . . . ] Is it your contention that training an application programmer to read a SYSUDUMP is easier than training him to use IPCS? I don't buy it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 2:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 64-bit application dump analysis [was: RE: Problems with ESTAEX invoked in AMODE 64 . . . ] Perhaps a training concern? I am not defending a lack of training -- just theorizing that "we would have to train everyone in IPCS" is a management concern. Granted, no one was born with SYSUDUMP debugging skills. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN