Is it your contention that training an application programmer to read a SYSUDUMP is easier than training him to use IPCS? I don't buy it.
-- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 ________________________________________ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Charles Mills [charl...@mcn.org] Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 2:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 64-bit application dump analysis [was: RE: Problems with ESTAEX invoked in AMODE 64 . . . ] Perhaps a training concern? I am not defending a lack of training -- just theorizing that "we would have to train everyone in IPCS" is a management concern. Granted, no one was born with SYSUDUMP debugging skills. What about the various tools out there? Abend-AID and the like are not sufficient? (No dog in this fight; I don't work for Compuware.) IPCS or SYSUDUMP seem like pretty "big deal" tools for finding the COMP-3 field that has spaces in it. Charles -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 64-bit application dump analysis [was: RE: Problems with ESTAEX invoked in AMODE 64 . . . ] On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 17:54:58 +0000, Seymour J Metz wrote: >ObSchiller IPCS is part of z/OS. All dangerous facilities of IPCS are >controlled by SAF. If your management capriciously prohibits you from using >it, the responsibility is theirs. It's certainly their prerogative to ban, >e.g., IEFBR14, but no outside company is obligated to rescue them from the >consequences of their decision. > >Not all companies take essential tools away from their application developers. > I take your mention of IEFBR14 as hyperbole. But I have heard of sincere admin objections to application programmers' use of AMASPZAP, ADRDSSU, and CMS DDR. Is there perhaps not a security but a performance concern with IPCS? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
