My take is that if your shop restricts IPCS, and doesn't provide a real
debugger, you need to be looking for a better job.  In what other
profession would anyone be expected to work without the tools they need?

sas


On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 1:27 PM Farley, Peter x23353 <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Mike,
>
> That's all well and good for an ISV such as yourself who has the freedom
> to use whatever debugging tools you choose to use, but what are programmers
> in non-ISV shops without application programmer access to IPCS supposed to
> do?
>
> z/XDC is a wonderful interactive debugging tool with which I am quite
> familiar, but it's not so helpful for ordinary HLL interactive debugging
> (other than Colesoft's very fine c/XDC, to which I do not have access)
> except in very complex debugging tasks not covered by ISV interactive
> products.
>
> I haven't touched TSO TEST in umpty-ump decades and probably wouldn't use
> it even if offered the opportunity.  In my experience it was a real bear to
> use, especially compared to z/XDC today.  FWIW, I had to debug a quite
> complex assembler / BTAM / multitasking application running under the MVS
> of the day using only TSO TEST at a client site in another country.  Got
> the job done, but definitely not an experience I ever wish to repeat.
>
> Peter

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