propane has definately gotten a bad rap. as a propane installer i can tell you that if installed properly regular maintenance and safety measures in place its a very safe fuel. here is a link from practical sailor magazine regarding propane as a cooking fuel. http://www.practical-sailor.com/marine/propane.pdf
"Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "...man...what a ride!" Michael Richmond -----Original Message----- From: "Bob" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:09:21 -0000 Subject: [IC27A] Re: Galley stove top > I think propane has gotten a bit of a bad reputation. I know it > explodes, I know it is heavier than air, and I know it has blown boats > and their owners to bits. But in that regard, it is really no more or > less dangerous than gasoline....and many of us have gallons of that > stuff on board all the time. > > But like gasoline, propane becomes a problem only when it leaks. > > So I wonder, how many propane accidents are due to faulty installation, > poor maintenance, or total lack of common sense? > > Following these four rules will go a long way towards avoiding leaks > > Keep the tank valve shut off when not in use > > Keep the tank in a propane locker, that is vented overboard > > Install an inline pressure gauge to check the system for leaks > > Have the propane system installed and maintained by professionals > > > Bob Stockley > Sundance #2436 > > > --- In [email protected], Bill Ludwick <capt_bill_2...@...> wrote: > > > > Good Morning - first response to any posts - I'm an old timer cat 27 > tall rig sailor- My boat (#448) had the original Princess that worked > fine - set the curtains on fire the first time I used it tho and I was > too numb headed in those days to use water - so I blew the cabin full > of white powder from the extinguisher... I've come a long ways since > those days... After 20 years I sold "Wind Quest" to a young able > bodied family man who is having a really good time with her - Arthritis > doesn't allow me to move around like I did 30 years ago. > > > > DO NOT USE PROPANE - nobody yet has mentioned BUTANE - Many small > power boats up to about 34 feet (I'm personally familiar with Sea Rays) > use BUTANE fueled stoves - Propane is heavier than air and may provide > an explosive environment in the bilge / cabin - butane is lighter than > air and will disperse itself out of the boat.... Butane cannisters are > available at most ships stores and West Marine.... > > > > Good Luck...........capt.bill ludwick - Toledo Ohio > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: swaimah44 <travis.sw...@...> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 8:21:46 PM > > Subject: [IC27A] Re: Galley stove top > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill, > > > > I would like to retro-fit my princess compressed alcohol stove on my > Cat 27 to use propane, can you give me more details on how you did > yours? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Travis Swaim > > "Neptune" Cat 27 #3484 > > > > --- In ic...@yahoogroups. com, "Bill Smyth" <billsmyth@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > I have obtained new burners for my original "Princes" stove because > the > > > original owner had replaced them with something else. Pressurized > alcohol > > > works fine, once you learn not to put too much into the preheat > cup, and its > > > safer than other liquids because you can put out an alcohol fire > with water. > > > Having seen the decks of 2 large sailboats removed by propane > explosions in > > > the Portland OR area, I would not consider propane on a boat. > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: ic...@yahoogroups. com [mailto:ic...@yahoogroups. com] On > Behalf Of John > > > Gilmore > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:03 AM > > > To: ic...@yahoogroups. com > > > Subject: Re: [IC27A] Galley stove top > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am still working on my manifold gasket dilemma, and hope to have > the new > > > bolts tapped out today, but have been following this post regarding > Galley > > > stove tops. I am new tio the C-27 group(73-hull 929) so I am fired > up(no > > > pun;lol) and ready to get into everything at once lol. Have any of > you kept > > > the original stove? Should I be concerned about trying to get it > working? I > > > have not taken much of a look at it yet, but believe I have the > p-22a as I > > > have noticed the stainless steel lid with cutting board on top. My > stove > > > looks to be in decent condition; however being a camper and dealing > with the > > > good ol colman set-ups for years I know that looks can be very > deceiving > > > lol. The only thing I notice off the bat was that the left burner > knob is > > > stuck (I have not tried to force it at all) It appears to have a > spring > > > shaft which rotates the burner/fuel control valve so I am thinking > I will > > > need to free it up from sitting. I would imagine this stove was > decent for > > > the time, and being one whom appreciated "the originals" lol I > think it > > > would be cool to get it working, unless there is a safty reason why > I should > > > not. Any thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > John. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: Don Brooks <brooksd956@ ...> > > > To: ic...@yahoogroups. com > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:05:47 AM > > > Subject: Re: [IC27A] Galley stove top > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My boat also had a CNG stove and I did not like it for all the > reasons John > > > mentioned. I looked into changing over to propane, but to do it > right would > > > require a vented locker and solenoid valve and switch panel. The > cost > > > started to add up. I got a new Origo 3000 on ebay for $240. I did > not > > > gimbal it since we rarely cook under way, unless the conditions are > VERY > > > light. On the average we use 2 quarts on alchol each year, so I > always keep > > > a spare quart under the galley counter. Cooking time is about the > same as > > > CNG. It is simple, safe and most of all, the chief cook loves it. > > > > > > Don, #6293, Niceville, FL > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > From: The Emmerichs <johnemmerich@ ...> > > > To: ic...@yahoogroups. com > > > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 9:30:29 PM > > > Subject: RE: [IC27A] Galley stove top > > > > > > My boat came with a CNG (compressed natural gas) stove. While this > is a > > > safe system (CNG is lighter than air so it rises) , I had two > problems with > > > the system: > > > > > > > > > > > > CNG is not available in Louisville, KY. I would have to go to > either > > > Evansville or Indianapolis, IN to refill the tank. > > > > > > The CNG tank was installed in the lazereatte(sp) and I didn't feel > I needed > > > all that weight in the aft end of the boat. > > > > > > > > > > > > I did not want to have to deal with propane in the boat. I have a > gas grill > > > but don't mount it on the rail unless we are going overnight and > will use > > > it. I realize that issues with leaking propane tanks are very rare > but.... > > > > > > > > > > > > So, I installed an Origo 3000 and have been very happy with it. > Yes, it was > > > more expensive but I can sleep better. I'm probably too paranoid > but there > > > is always the anchor to worry about. > > > > > > > > > > > > John Emmerich > > > > > > 5874 TR > > > > > > Louisville, KY > > > > > > > > > > > > From: ic...@yahoogroups. com [mailto:IC27A@ yahoogroups. com] On > Behalf Of > > > Bill Pellegrino > > > Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 3:23 PM > > > To: ic...@yahoogroups. com > > > Subject: RE: [IC27A] Galley stove top [1 Attachment] > > > > > > > > > > > > [ <http://us.mg3. mail.yahoo. com/dc/blank. html?bn=1277. 43&.intl= > us#TopText> > > > Attachment(s) from Bill Pellegrino included below] > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bryan, > > > > > > I converted the original Pressure Alcohol stove into a new propane > stove for > > > under $50 on Aquadesiac. > > > > > > I bought a new camping stove from Harbor Freight and I installed > the burner > > > eliments into the old stove. It was an easy conversion and the > stove looks > > > like it was made at the factory. > > > > > > http://www.harborfr eight.com/ cpi/ctaf/ Displayitem. > > > <http://www.harborfr eight.com/ cpi/ctaf/ Displayitem. > taf?itemnumber= 35559> > > > taf?itemnumber= 35559 > > > > > > Good luck and Happy Sailing. > > > > > > Bill Pellegrino _/) > > > SV Aquadesiac #5705 > > > Port Edgewood, RI > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > To: ic...@yahoogroups. com > > > From: brype...@yahoo. com > > > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:33:12 +0000 > > > Subject: [IC27A] Galley stove top > > > > > > > > > > > > I need to replace the propane galley cook top. Any recommendations? > There is > > > a drawer below so the gimbaled version probably wont be practical > anyway... > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Bryan > > > Mukilteo, WA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) > > > Database version: 6.12610 > > > http://www.pctools. com/spyware- doctor-antivirus / > > > <http://www.pctools. com/en/spyware- doctor-antivirus /> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.0.1.441) > > > Database version: 6.12620 > > > http://www.pctools. com/en/spyware- doctor-antivirus / > > > > > > > >
