On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:55:40AM -0700, Murray S. Kucherawy allegedly wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:ietf-dkim-
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Hector Santos
> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 11:42 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] marketing dkim
> > 
> > Dave CROCKER wrote:
> > >
> > > No doubt some do validate the From: field.  Others merely mean "the
> > > message went through my MTA".  Any assertion of From: field assessment
> > > is therefore far outside the scope of the DKIM base specification.
> > 
> > This is hard to grasp and conflicts with the DKIM base specification
> > which makes the 5322.FROM a fundamentally required binding hashed
> > entity in the DKIM signature manufacturing.

> I don't know what you mean by "binding".  DKIM doesn't say From: has
> to contain any particular value, only that it has to be one of the
> signed fields.

I don't know about binding either, but my point, before this
sub-thread is completely lost, is that the suggestion that a "caring
provider" put in some user identifiable token amounts to the same thing
as asking a "caring provider" to ensure that 822.From can be used as a
user identifiable token.

In other words, there is no need to invent anything new here to
achieve the OP's result. After all, an uncaring provider means that
>From is as reliable as any other user identifiable token, which is to
say, not at all.

So, assuming you can determine a caring provider, then ask them to be
careful about 822.From rather than ask them to invent and insert some
other user identifiable token.


Note: I'm not necessarily advocating the OP's suggestion, just saying
no new token needs to be invented to support it - instead, just make
the recommendation to "caring providers". Job done. Move along.


Mark.
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