Adding to it Free in FOSS is this: Free as in FREEdom not FREE as in Free beer
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:38, Gunjan Patidar <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > Let me clarify it a little more for you > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 8:22 AM, amit kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > >> let me justify the points >> >> 1. LINUX is lesser user friendly:- >> >> -to learn to use command line for an non-engineer is a daunting task . > > and a non-engineer doesn't have to. You can find a frontend to even the > most complex cli commands today. A non-engineer can use linux whole of his > life without even knowing about the console > > >> -and for other points i am satisfied that it is the resistance to change >> that LINUX seems hard . >> but the fact that non-engineers should go to LINUX is hard ,because of >> this resistance . >> an engineer like us enjoys LINUX because it is different and better OS >> ,but why would a busniessman want to waste his time learning a new thing . > > Lets fast forward a few years to the future. Linux (desktop)market share is > ~85%, windows is down to ~10%. All new pc/laptops come preinstalled with a > linux distro. A (non-engineer) businessman started using computers few monts > back(with linux). His long time windows user friends comes to visit him and > sees him using linux > > Businessman: Hey how are you? Its been a long time > Friend: I'm good. thanks. I see you are using linux > Businessman: yes, I've to use computers for a few tasks at work > Friend: why don't you try windows. It looks much easier (to me). It would > just cost you a few hundred $. (And there is virus, and you need to upgrade > your hardware, and ...) > Businessman: You see, I don't use computers much. Just some trivial stuff. > why would I want to 'waste time learning a new thing'. And I get this os and > all upgrades free, why would I want to pay for an os. why would anybody? > > This is the situation we all are vying for. I hope you see my point > > >> 2. LINUX will be properiatory >> >> UBUNTU is not properiatory now because it's under development.it's not >> visible to us .if you are going for what is written on CD cover than i think >> you should reconsider yourself.UBUNTU is given for free because:- >> >> 1. because they want to see ,what actually we want >> 2. it's new ,and if you are an UBUNTU user you would realise that it has >> some damn bad policies ,as compared to REDHAT >> 3. they are using it as FEDORA ,after UBUNTU is popular they ,would >> certailny release A REDHAT ALIKE . >> > > If ubuntu want to do that, they should. I don't see a problem here. giving > away free cds, maintaining servers, paying developers/artists etc requires > money. what do you think is their stream of income. People like us who don't > want to pay will always get our downloads for free (as in fedora, redhat) > because major part of development documentation and support takes place by > community support. They cannot simply push us away. > > >> OTHER eg's >> >> 1. OPEN SOLARIS RECOMMENDS VERY HARDLY TO JOIN IT'S COMMUNITY > > why shouldn't they? > > >> 2. UNBREABLE LINUX (ORACLE'S) is given as a distro only when people are >> willing to use ORACLE technologies (for exact words order a free cd) > > Just try to mail them, asking a free cd and mention that you won't be using > oracle. you just want to try the distro. I'm sure they would give you the cd > > >> >> 3. REDHAT MAGAZINE clearly specifies what FEDORA is for >> >> " >> >> People often wonder how to get new capabilities—new packages, new features >> in existing packages, or even bug fixes—included in Red Hat Enterprise >> Linux. The process for doing so is straightforward, but may be foreign to >> those with a background in traditional software products. >> >> To summarize, the process is: >> 1)Get the new code accepted upstream. >> 2)Get it included in Fedora. >> 3)Get it included in Red Hat Enterprise Linux. >> >> Although this article focuses on the Linux kernel, the steps apply to all >> Red Hat Enterprise Linux components and packages." >> >> Again, I don't see a problem > >> >> >> >> this is what i got from REDHATMAGAZINE.COM >> >> >> i myself believe that LINUX IS MUCH BETTER THAN WINDOWS. >> >> well my point is not that WINDOWS is better than LINUX ,but that LINUX is >> not that great to criticize WINDOWS so hardly . >> >> PLEASE explain the security part in detail or atleast send an appropriate >> link >> >> On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 10:51 PM, rohit <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Dont take me wrong there >>> >>> but >>> >>> >> 1. LINUX is very less user friendly as compared to WINDOWS . it's >>> good >>> >> for engineers like us ,but for common users ,to run LINUX may need >>> special >>> >> training against the user friendliness of windows. >>> >>> AS this statement is coming from a earlier and knowledgable windows >>> user(seems so to me),i dont ACCEPT it.... >>> >>> give a child a "windows vista" and a "ubuntu(say gnome env.)" and >>> tell me...if he can use windows more easily.... >>> nothing is easier than synaptic in ubuntu(or well that mint thing in >>> linux mint....) >>> nor is it more beautiful than compiz-fusion >>> >>> >>> >>2. linux is virus free,yes we all proclaim this ,but in reality that is >>> just >>> >>because LINUX is less popular than WINDOWS .more of the market is in >>> hands >>> >>of WINDOWS >>> >>> plus the stability of linux is a well established fact.....not related >>> to the abundancy of systems in any aspect >>> >>> LET me tell you something,,,,i read somewhere that someone could write >>> on windows driven os's drive by using a linux platform over a network. >>> U CALL THAT SAFE??? >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>3. LINUX is free .we are proud for that ,but it is not that >>> >>> I STRONGLY DISAGREE.......... >>> >>> i dont like linux for cheapness......i like it for it is open source >>> and would be using ubuntu even if it costs more than that my ram >>> hungry "VISTA"... >>> >>> >>> the only properiatiory things i like are a couple of games and few >>> drivers for my system(moving to open source on these also....) >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > Gunjan Patidar > Henny Youngman - "If at first you don't succeed... so much for skydiving." > > > > -- Lots o' Luv, Phani Bhushan Let not your sense of morals prevent you from doing what is right - Isaac Asimov (Salvor Hardin in Foundation and Empire) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ l...@iitd mailing list -- group http://groups.google.com/group/iitdlug -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
