----- Original Message -----
From: Indranil Das Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: ILUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: [ilug-cal] Buggy RH6.0
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Shourya Sarcar wrote:
>
> > Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:02:09 +0530
> > From: Shourya Sarcar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: ILUG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [ilug-cal] Buggy RH6.0
> >
> > I think RH 6.0 is _definitely_ buggy. I remember people having problems
with
> > RH6.0 probing the mouse type and and the installation process does not
> > (probability around 97.223 %) recover from the problem. Groan $@!
> > This has happened with me too and I found it a pleasure to go back to 5.2
and
> > upgrade the kernel and other (read loadz) of stuff using control-panel.
God
> > save me, I dont think I have the courage to try out another
install/upgrade
> > using the RH6.0 distro.
>
> Don't agreed completely. The H/w detection part *has* improved in a big
> way over RHL 5.2. Blaming the s/w is the most common knee-jerk reaction
> in most of us. But often the culprits are to be found in the guise of
> el-cheapo mobos, flacky vid cards, old bioses, xyz-compatible cards that
> are not really *that* "compatible" ;-)
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Well, that's true.. partially.
I do not want to hold RH 6.0 / Linux responsible for providing NOT support
for SleekMouse 2 from PiedP Hardware, realising fully well that there might be
15 odd reasons why the mouse is not Micro$oft compat although it claims to be.
Does not make sense. It is rather overwhelming that an "under-organised"
movement of hackers/pros/penguins has evolved so much support for so much
diverse hardware.
However, the problem *me* is having with RH6.0 was that I have
installed/reinstalled (with different partition combos) using the same mouse
(Logitech) and suddenly one fine morning (all the more fish, twas my bday)
RH6.0 decided that it would not budge. The worst part is that partial recovery
although promised.. does not work.
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> > SOME BONEHEAD(YOU) IS CHECKING A LIVE FILE SYSTEM !!" or "Ran out of
input..
> > System halted" is not a pleasant intro to an OS. On that count I think,
MS-WIN
> > (I can see a few guns being drawn;-)) does have an marginal edge.... with
> > common people.
>
> Sure, and BSOD is the most pleasent experience in computing! Yes, MS-Winn
> does have an "edge", why does no one every talk about the distress non-IT
> users experience when facing a BSOD, or "This program has performed an
> illegal operation" right before they were to save thet important
> presentation, or the email to send off, or how does it feel to face a
> virus while checking your mail with the morning cuppa of coffee ..most
> windows users ("common users" ie.) are simply lulled into a false sense
> of security.
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I am not trying to defend M$ or myself.
However, if we look at it the design of MS-Windows to maintain backward
compatibilty relies heavily on DOS which in turn due to a 1000 reasons cares a
shit about virii. In fact , the concept of a virii(as far as me
knowledge/comp. history goes) was not much prevalent in the early 1980's .
Some techie from Pakistan wrote the Brain virus back in 4. The flaw is not
exactly with MSWIN95/98 as an OS but to two decades of legacy preservation..
and I am talking QDOS and CP/M.
Looking at the newer generation of Win products, ie NT (I do not nkow much
about 2000's internal arch.) viral attack seems to be much contained. Because
NT is an OS designed from Scratch , providing VDMs to maintain backward
compatibilty. In fact NT draws a lot of stuff from *nix and Vax VMS.
My perspective is not to belittle or crib abt Linux.. but only to open a
thread of discussion where we can talk abt making Linux MORE user friendly.
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> If you are talking about out-of-box p-n-p support for h/w, think about
> the days of Win 3.0 or even WFW 3.11, or look at NT till some time back,
> how many h/w peripheral were easy to install?
>
> And behind those drivers for the h/w, look for the tales of NDAs,
> arm-twisting of OEM vendors, special licensing deals....the picture that
> emerges is pretty grim....it is the story of a monopoly. Period!
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Agree fully.
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>
> [Note to everyone: I am not MS-bashing here and this isn't a flame-bait. I
> happen to be one among the first batches of MCPs in India, at least I was
> one long before Gates came for his highly publicised visit to India in '97.
> I have played with Win98 beta for 6 months before its official release.
> Till sometime back I was running a patched up Win 95 system (based on
> OSR2), that without being W98, gave me all its features and showed an
> internal build number of 4.10.1423 (very colse to the W98 final preview).]
>
> --Cheers,
> Indra.
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Cool stuff ! And I was always confidant that you were an unbiased Linux
advocate ;-)
Love,
PID
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>
> PS. I think it was Dr. Goebbels (think Hitler) who said that if a
> falsehood is repeated often for a long time, people slowly start to
> believe it as the truth ;-)
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