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>>>>> "ams" == Abhijit Menon-Sen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
ams> Hi. At 2005-08-19 16:08:43 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ams> wrote:
>> But yes, I have been on this list for a few months, and have
>> not heard anyone actually mention it as a loss- the fact that
>> there are no 'active' women on the list.
ams> I don't know what you were expecting to see, but the subject
ams> does come up every now and then: people wonder why more women
ams> don't participate, say "Hey, we should do something about
ams> that!" and go back to whatever they were doing, because
ams> nobody knows what to do.
>> With the ILUG-D list, it makes me feel like I have wandered
>> into an old boys' gang...
ams> That's not going to change without some help.
ams> Appropriate behaviour is not learned in a vacuum: it's
ams> learned through repeated interaction and observation. Very
ams> few people actually *want* to make women uncomfortable, but
ams> if they don't get any feedback about what they're doing
ams> wrong, they won't know what to change.
I agree with AMS up to a point here. As I see it, all that the men
here can do is make sure that the list (and the Group) aren't
``woman-unfriendly''. Which means, as I see it, no blatant sexism, no
off-colour stuff, no male-only assumptions. This is something that
can be actively pursued, and to an extent is already part of the group
and the list.
OTOH, this is not the same as being ``woman-friendly''. Frankly I
wouldn't even know where to start defining ``woman-friendly'' without
resorting to stereotypes and, eventually, sexism. However, I think I
speak for most of the members when I say that we're willing to learn
and change through both interaction and express requests for making
things more comfortable for women.
Ball. Court. Your.
Regards,
- -- Raju
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Raj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://kandalaya.org/
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