>I had one forward to client with an msn.com address and I was getting the
>out of memory error.
>I changed to email.msn.com and all works fine.

1. Has MSN unilatarally and secretly "innovated" new mail domains?

MSN's mail servers, or their DNSs, or both, are screwed up, invalidating 
@msn.com, now replaced with @mail.msn.com?  And we're suppposed to go 
modify our address books and tell our clients, bitchin at us for 
undelivered mail, how to get their mail delivered to MSN's variable addresses?

So, to what ip do our mail servers send for [EMAIL PROTECTED] :

# dig mail.msn.com mx

; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> mail.msn.com mx
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 4
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;      mail.msn.com, type = MX, class = IN

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
msn.com.                58M IN SOA      dns.cp.msft.net. 
msnhst.microsoft.com. (
                                         2000053101      ; serial
                                         30M             ; refresh
                                         15M             ; retry
                                         11w6d8h         ; expiry
                                         1H )            ; minimum

ie, DNS says their is no MX record for mail.msn.com.  and...

; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> mail.msn.com a
;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch
;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 4
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUERY SECTION:
;;      mail.msn.com, type = A, class = IN

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
msn.com.                34m46s IN SOA   dns.cp.msft.net. 
msnhst.microsoft.com. (
                                         2000053101      ; serial
                                         30M             ; refresh
                                         15M             ; retry
                                         11w6d8h         ; expiry
                                         1H )            ; minimum

ie, no A rec for the mailhost mail.msn.com.

hmm, no MX and no A for @mail.msn.com, smells just like SPAM.  vbg

2. Hotmail's mailer daemon bounces undelivereable msgs back to us using 
Hotmail's NUL sender and following RFC, but when our mailer daemons bounce 
their undeliverable msgs with our NUL senders, Hothmail violates RFC and 
rejects them.

Len

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