That is a BIG part of the problem.  A SPAMmer can get more bang for the buck
with email than fax.  Potentially 10-100 thousand times the bang for the
buck!!  It should not be a matter of how much it costs the user, it should
be a matter of does it cost the user something.  Just because the cost is
spread out over a huge number of recipients does not excuse the act.
Besides, its not the recipient that bears the cost, its the recipients mail
host.

Also, I think a little referenced but important fact is that almost all of
what we consider SPAM comes from illegitimate sources hijacking an
unsuspecting mail server for FREE.  Not only does the sender pay nothing,
but the relay host and the recipient host get pegged for the cost!  I know
of no faster way to educate a mail admin about the perils of SPAM than to
get hijacked by a SPAMmer!  We could actually argue that we are saving these
people money by blacklisting them, by them learning very quickly that the
are an open relay and preventing themselves from being hijacked again (or
maybe for the first time)! Yeah, I like that argument!

Todd

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     I think a big influence on the legal status of Junk FAX vs. Junk Email
stems from the difference between the receiver's cost.  Paper is a physical
and easily accounted for, bandwidth (at the users end) is a bit harder to
count.

    Additionally the feasibility of spamming a large portion of any
population is logistically much more time and resource intense via Faxes.
With a single posting you can Email 10s to 100s of thousands of potential
recipients.  The speed and efficiency of the electronic communications media
is it's Achilles heel as well.

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> > Is there any legislation on junk faxes?
> Yes, there is.  Notice how you don't receive junk faxes like you do junk
> email or telemarketing calls.  I don't have it close by but I can look up
> the statute if you'd like.  We get 20-30 telemarketing calls and who knows
> how much junk mail and junk email per week but only about 1 junk fax.
>
> >Would it apply to junk email?
> Many people argue that it does.  It was passed before the mainstream use
of
> email but when you read the statute it could be interpreted that way.  To
my
> knowledge this hasn't been tested in court yet though.
>
> > What happened to the side of free speech in the junk fax legislation?
> That's the thing, it's not a free speach issue.
>
> David
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