> My opinion on #1: > - A message that is malformed or does not adhere to the > standards could be considered malicious. But I don't know > how to seperate the SPAMmers from the ASP pages that have the > same broken headers. Any message that is well-formed should > not be considered malicious, even if your server failed to > handle it correctly. > - SPAMmers are not hackers. They don't try to infect your > computer (if they do, I call them hackers). They send > annoying, unwanted messages. They hijack other servers for > their own gain. I don't think that I should have to receive > anything from them. But its up to me to stop their messages! > By putting myself on the public internet, I accept to > receive a certain number of messages that I didn't ask for. > Have you ever received a joke from a friend of a friend that > you never heard of? Did you turn them in for trespassing on > your mail server? > - Open Relay tests messages on not hacking attempts. They > are housekeeping messages that keep the house (internet) > clean for everyones benefit. > - If the tests messages are the same for all servers, then > how can the be accused of singling out a specific server? > Even if ORBZ knew their tests would cause problems for > unpatched Dominoe servers, as long as the test message is > consistent for all servers. Maybe I am not seeing a valid reason for an email test to be delivered to [EMAIL PROTECTED] which is the internel ip of the interface and causes the bounce problems... But I can see no reason a valid email program should send an email like that... And as far as I can tell this is what locks up those servers and possibly some others. Orbz wasn't even close to housekeeping attempts. They didn't notify domain administrators either pre or post test, no attempt was made. And you seem to mistake the trespassing portion. Mail sent to or from a user on our system, whether asked for or not you pretty much have to live with. But mail from joeblow spammer to somebody else using my server is unauthorized use in anybodys book.
> My opinion on #2: > - My first reaction is yes. Its a free country! > - My second reaction is I'm tired of paying for capacity to > support the "free country" of the internet for others monetary gain. > - I feel that the difference is when the entity making money > is making someone else pay for them to do business. > - Example: I have an Aunt that sends me garbage emails > constantly (get rich, chain letters, no virus hoax, septic > ads,...), but I don't consider that SPAM b/c she is not > making money on it! Although I would probably pay her to stop!! :-) > - When someone is costing me money for their own gain, I > would like laws against that! At the very least, let me > motivate other entities (ie. ORBZ) to help me keep them at bay. On number 2 I also am torn... I guess the way I look at it is if the spammer pays for his own mail and bandwidth to deliver the goods I can't fault him. I suspect he won't likely be able to pay for it though. Of course look at verisign now... I just received a notice that I need to renew a domain with a quick easy link to renew it through them... Problem is I have it registered with somebody else.. At less than 1/3 the cost... My guess their spam program will net them big bucks... I might not like that kind of junk mail but don't see that anything should be done about it from a mail admin's standpoint. Please visit http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html to be removed from this list. An Archive of this list is available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Please visit the Knowledge Base for answers to frequently asked questions: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
