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But that's the problem, they won't clear it from
their list even though most of the other anti-spam databases have. And I
agree about the not having time to police this for the average admins, but
these guys take it upon themselves to offer this "service", they should spend
the time if their going to offer this to the public.
I think we're all hoping that the proposed
anti-spam law passes, it would be nice to be able to shut down some of these
guys.
Mike
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Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:16
PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Help with
getting unlisted on anti-spam DB
once
the site in question is cleared from their database then it's released.
most email admins don't have days, week, months available to 'police' up
entire ranges of ip's that change rapidly once the spammers find out
they've been blacklisted. It has also been identified that most
spam/porn sites will use a large amount, if not all, of the block in
question. We also block entire countries too... so their is a few
'million' people that we won't receive mail from. As for
hotmail/aol/yahoo, etc, I certainly hope that the new proposed anti-spam law
will pass ~ maybe then we could be monetarily compensated for all the damage
that virus laden spam/porn does to our systems and client systems
too..
~Rick
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From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd
Holt
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 2:25 PM - MGMT.TV
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Help with
getting unlisted on anti-spam DB
I
have a question about this practice. Why would you block the whole
range without verifying that the entire range is used for spamming?
Our company only has 5 static IPs. We don't need any more than
that. But if a spammer were to use another IP in the block our
IPs are in, we become an innocent victim. I thought anti-spam efforts
were to prevent email users from becoming innocent victims, of
spammers. Now I see that I need to protect our company from the
anti-spammers. Its like being a nuetral country in the middle of a
war.
Now I realize that its easier to blacklist the entire IP block, but
its even easier to shut down your mail server! And both will protect
you from a spammer on the IP block. So I suggest you do the later and
save the rest of us! This is sounding very much like AOL, et al.
And I have to think you know how I feel about there gustapo
practices.
Todd
We Block the whole range of ip's too... and yourmain.com
is listed in the spam database at 53.43.28.66.relays.osirusoft.com as a
know spammer; so until yourmain.com has a differnet ip address or they get
taken off thier list they will continue to be bounced to the ole trash
can.
~Rick
Hi Everyone,
We just moved to a new provider this month
and have found ourselves listed in the SPEWS, XBL, and
spews.relays.osirusoft.com lists due to some idiot who uses the same
provider and that sent a bunch of spam a while back. It looks like
the osirusoft.com list is a duplicate of the SPEWS list.
I've talked to our provider and they claim
to have removed the offending content and have been able to get
themselves removed from all the other lists that they were in due to
this guy, but they said that they have been trying for months to get
removed from the SPEWS list with no luck or response. I've sent a
message to the news group that the SPEWS site says to, but I'm not
holding my breath.
It seems that SPEWS doesn't bother blocking
the offending IP, they just block the whole darn range! Does
anyone else have a problem with this? I mean this idiot has like 5
IPs, but they block the whole 66.28.43.0/255 range with no regard for
anyone else.
To me, this is the worse kind of spam
police tactics, more like spam stormtroopers. Don't get me wrong,
I HATE spam, especially the porn kind that my kids get! But to
block everyone because of what one idiot did is just plain
WRONG.
Do a lot of you use SPEWS? If so, why
would you use a service that blocks 99% legit email because of 1% of
abuse from a different IP?
Thanks,
Mike
Achenbach
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