No Sir Anurag Ji, I am unable to tell you if the capsules in your thread are pubescent or not! That is why I think the KEY from your college taxonomy club doesn't help me much in these cases!
Not only that, according to the KEY of that book *H. neilgherryensis* should have glandular hairy cladodes. I am not sure if those cladodes in your plant <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/D5V4vxlW5nc/5q0B7fF9oQ0J> were glandular or not. Perhaps a few glandular hairs are there in DSC_0739.jpg (below the flower) and in DSC_0743.jpg (bottom of the pic). In fact, this prolonged and intermittent discussion along with so many KEY in various sources makes it more and more complicated. Yet, based on distribution,your species is not *plumosa*; based on hair on cladodes your species is not *tentaculatus*; based on this thread <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/3nmuGlKjTcA/_NfYckzYZxwJ> your species is not * verticillatus*. Thank you Regards On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 8:31 PM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> wrote: > No sir, I am afraid without a clear view of the capsules, I wouldn't know > where to start. > But in this thread > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/D5V4vxlW5nc/5q0B7fF9oQ0J>, > would you say that the capsule is pubescent or glabrous? > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 10:03 PM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Thanks Anurag Ji for the KEY to four species. But, does it help us to >> identify the species we/I have discussed so far in the following three >> threads? - >> >> 1. >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/q8x3X5TrbrY/9LAisyYhIHwJ >> (this >> very thread) >> 2. >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/D5V4vxlW5nc/5q0B7fF9oQ0J >> 3. >> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/By2tCca-aOs/niDaDdPIZU8J >> >> Would you please identify the above threads again? >> >> Regards >> >> surajit >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Good evening sir. While going through the various flora in my college >>> taxonomy lab, I found this in the Flora of Nasik District (P. >>> Lakshminarasimhan and B.D Sharma). All four species have been keyed out: >>> >>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thank you very much sir- for the discussion and the summary! >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 10:37 PM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Anurag Ji, following is the synopsis (based on very limited >>>>> resource we have discussed and pasted links) - >>>>> >>>>> *cladode length :-* >>>>> *verticillaris* (*verticillatus* ) = 19 mm to 30 mm >>>>> *tentaculatus* (incl. var.) = 06 mm to 20 mm >>>>> >>>>> *glandular hairs on cladodes :* >>>>> *verticillaris* (*verticillatus* ) = present >>>>> *tentaculatus* (incl. var.) = absent (in all var.?) >>>>> >>>>> *calyx :* >>>>> *verticillaris* (*verticillatus* ) = 2 mm long, glabrous or pubescent >>>>> *tentaculatus* = >>>>> >>>>> - (around 4 to 5 mm long, pubescent or scarcely ciliate in var. >>>>> *tentaculatus* >>>>> - long (? should be more or less equal to above) and pilose in >>>>> *neilgherryensis* (note : spike is congested than var. >>>>> *tentaculatus*) >>>>> - should be equal length to above and plumose in var. *plumosa* >>>>> >>>>> (please note KEW has herb. featuring intermediate form of var. >>>>> *tentaculatus* and var. *neilgherryensis* >>>>> >>>>> *colour of corolla :-* >>>>> uncertain to me in all species and var. >>>>> >>>>> Capsule size also uncertain (ref. JCB & Pullaiah); number of seeds not >>>>> known to me; seed of *tentaculatus* is smaller than *verticillaris* (ref. >>>>> FBI) >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 11:09 PM, Anurag Sharma < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have a request sir. >>>>>> Could you please summarize our entire discussion so as to be referred >>>>>> to in the future when another post of Haplanthodes sp. comes up? This >>>>>> would >>>>>> be quite helpful for me as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:29 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> btw, Calyx of *H. verticillaris* is 1 line (1 line = 2.1 mm). >>>>>>> corolla 6 line long (note the calyx to corolla ratio); calyx glabrous or >>>>>>> nearly so (ref. >>>>>>> http://www.herbier-mpu.org/zoomify/zoomify.php?fichier=MPU018249). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 8:13 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Our concern is with only two species of FBI, Anurag Ji, *Haplanthus >>>>>>>> verticillaris* and *H. tentaculatus*. The later includes var. >>>>>>>> *nilgherrensis* and var. *plumosa*. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Since I have no field experience on this particular genus I depend >>>>>>>> on DInesh Ji's experience - of *H. neilgherryensis* - >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/NbKZ2cRILsc/znbfFPnQ7iAJ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have collected info from various threads, examined online >>>>>>>> herbarium, read old lit. and cooked my own recipe. I do not claim my >>>>>>>> dish >>>>>>>> is healthy and nutritious! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 1:09 AM, Anurag Sharma < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks sir. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One question- are the pseudowhorls forming further branches not >>>>>>>>> seen ANY of the other threads on the group? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 9:56 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear Anurag Ji, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If *Haplanthus verticillaris* Nees can have 3 teeth sometimes >>>>>>>>>> then number of teeth won't be a KEY to id species. Attached here >>>>>>>>>> what Wight >>>>>>>>>> recorded about cladode teeth in *H. nilgherrensis*. Please note >>>>>>>>>> what Wight referred to "bract" may be he meant cladode. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> After going through all uploads of *Haplanthus*/*Haplanthodes* I >>>>>>>>>> think - >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - length cladode is vital (ref. FBI and "note" in >>>>>>>>>> http://linnean-online.org/6882/) >>>>>>>>>> - I am not sure if presence/absence of glandular hair can be >>>>>>>>>> a KEY >>>>>>>>>> - In *H. neilgherryensis* flowers in pseudo-whorls taking a >>>>>>>>>> form of terminal spike; cladodes and sepals with white hairs >>>>>>>>>> (ref. FBI) >>>>>>>>>> - In var. *plumosa* pseudo-whorls are relatively wide spaced; >>>>>>>>>> sepals are hairy subplumose >>>>>>>>>> - In *H. tentacularis* cladodes are smaller than *H. >>>>>>>>>> verticillaris* and not ciliate (ref. FBI and Linnean site) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> However, I think I have found *H. t.* var. *plumosa*! Here it is >>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/By2tCca-aOs/niDaDdPIZU8J. >>>>>>>>>> Check the two photographs in highest resolution, you will see plumose >>>>>>>>>> sepals clearly. Besides, each pseudo-whorl in that plant gives rise >>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> sub-branches which do again form flowering pseudowhorl of cladodes >>>>>>>>>> (Dinesh >>>>>>>>>> Ji pointed out this character in a thread). Please also compare >>>>>>>>>> those two >>>>>>>>>> pics with another upload(s) by Neil Sir - >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/CCj373r5vGw/GrD_qNzUKkEJ >>>>>>>>>> Note >>>>>>>>>> the darker pattern in corolla lobes in both the thread >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Anurag Sharma < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well sir, in one Flora that I saw, it said cladodes in H. >>>>>>>>>>> verticillatus generally 2 toothed, rarely 3. I cannot find it right >>>>>>>>>>> now. >>>>>>>>>>> Will attach when I do. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:25 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anurag Ji, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I copy here the KEY, based on various lit, you have provided - >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *CHARACTER* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Haplanthus verticillaris* Nees >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Haplanthus neilgherryensis *Wight >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *Haplanthodes nilgherrensis* (Wight) R.B.Majumdar >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (this column can include the varieties coming under*Haplanthodes >>>>>>>>>>>> tentaculatus- Haplanthus tentaculatus*group) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *INFLORESCENCE* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> TERMINAL >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *CLADODE* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> .75-1.25 INCH >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ENDING IN 2 SPINOUS TEETH >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> VILLOUS AND GLANDULAR >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> .5 INCH >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ENDING IN 2 OR MORE TEETH >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> VILLOUS (NOT GLANDULAR) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *CAPSULE* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> .4 INCH >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> GLABROUS >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> .2 INCH >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> PUBESCENT >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *SEEDS* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 6-16 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please check the thread >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/C6E9D20qujk/x1u7YD85F60J. >>>>>>>>>>>> To me cladodes seem to be gladular, yet number of teeth is two in >>>>>>>>>>>> some & >>>>>>>>>>>> three in others. What do you think? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:59 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anurag Ji, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I do not know. Since we do not have other source we will have >>>>>>>>>>>>> to depend on FBI. I copy a few words - >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Type species : cladodes in fruits glabrous or pubescent, not >>>>>>>>>>>>> ciliate; calyx pubescent, scarcely ciliate; corolla less than 1/2 >>>>>>>>>>>>> inch, >>>>>>>>>>>>> white (blue, lilac - Pullaiah) >>>>>>>>>>>>> var. *Plumosa* : calyx densely hispid-hairy subplumose >>>>>>>>>>>>> var. *nilgherrensis* (*neolgherryensis*) : you have lit. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Your species had capsule slightly curved (check KEW herb >>>>>>>>>>>>> K000885689), while after checking *plumosa* herb. at KEW site >>>>>>>>>>>>> it appears to me *plumosa* capsules are a bit shorter and >>>>>>>>>>>>> straight. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think if these details can not be ascertain we need to go to >>>>>>>>>>>>> var. *plumosa*, but leave it at *H. tentaculatus* only. This >>>>>>>>>>>>> does not apply to *neilgherryensis* >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:24 PM, Anurag Sharma < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you sir. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still do not know what to make of the difference between >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the var. under *Haplanthodes tentaculata*. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:16 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, here is the FBI. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 6:14 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, Anurag Ji, I missed the glandular cladode of *H. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verticillaris*. And also fruit size was unknown to me. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Attached here the FBI entries. I stressed on calyx character >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which was not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible in attached pictures, couldn't make out length of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cladode in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> various threads. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for those differentiating characters. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:00 PM, Anurag Sharma < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Based on Gamble and Flora of Hassan District (attached), >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biodiversity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in India >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=M0ucOe89GZMC&pg=PA592&lpg=PA592&dq=HAPLANTHUS+TENTACULATUS&source=bl&ots=cVvc3YFcOk&sig=307E8rMNGbFkyktAJ3S34098hRc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=BnktVefgJ5WmuQSci4DACA&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=HAPLANTHUS%20TENTACULATUS&f=false> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and JCB >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Haplanthodes%20verticillatus/page_533.pdf.jpg> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CHARACTER* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Haplanthus verticillaris* Nees >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Haplanthodes verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Haplanthus neilgherryensis *Wight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Haplanthodes nilgherrensis* (Wight) R.B.Majumdar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (this column can include the varieties coming under >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Haplanthodes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tentaculatus- Haplanthus tentaculatus *group) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *INFLORESCENCE* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TERMINAL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CLADODE* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .75-1.25 INCH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ENDING IN 2 SPINOUS TEETH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VILLOUS AND GLANDULAR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .5 INCH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ENDING IN 2 OR MORE TEETH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VILLOUS (NOT GLANDULAR) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *CAPSULE* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .4 INCH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GLABROUS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .2 INCH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PUBESCENT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *SEEDS* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6-16 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the above cases, whether we: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) consider the varieties under *Haplanthodes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tentaculatus* (L.) Nees or, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) think of them as coming under a Haplanthus tentaculatus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> group; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -the clear difference between *Haplanthodes verticillatus* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar and the other species (singular/plural) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is- *cladodes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> densely pubescent* *AND* *glandular hairy* in *Haplanthodes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar while the other is *ONLY >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *densely pubescent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this is agreeable, then may be we finally have a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definite idea of what is and isn't *Haplanthodes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar based on the cladode >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being glandular hairy? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please correct me if I have gone wrong anywhere. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 8:00 AM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes for both of your questions, I think Anurag Ji. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> q1 = ref. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/img/pdf/Haplanthodes%20verticillatus/page_533.pdf.jpg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> q2 = I used the term "*H. tentaculatus* group", for the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> type species as well as var. *nilgherrensis* and var. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *plumosa*. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Haplanthodes* is synonymous with *Haplanthus* and also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with *Berekampia* in our cases. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 2:30 AM, Anurag Sharma < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and also, as a continuation of 2) =*Haplanthus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tentaculatus* group? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Anurag Sharma < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sir, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe I may have a resolving idea to put forth but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first I would like to know if: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) *Haplanthus verticillaris* Nees = *Haplanthodes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verticillatus* (Roxb.) R.B.Majumdar >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) *Haplanthus neilgherryensis *Wight = *Haplanthodes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nilgherrensis* (Wight) R.B.Majumdar? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 11:31 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I asked if any member can access the paper >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.3417/2013046. What I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come to know is that *Haplanthodes tentaculatus* (L.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nees is further divided in to var. *nilgherryensis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/haplanthodes/haplanthodes-nilgherrensis>* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> var. plumosa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://plants.jstor.org/stable/history/10.5555/al.ap.specimen.k000885684>, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> besides type species. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, I do not have literature, be it century old, on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> South Indian flora. I have never seen one physical >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> species, never before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even in images. The first time I saw/noticed it in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anurag Ji's thread >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/D5V4vxlW5nc/5q0B7fF9oQ0J> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second, it appears to me that various uploads of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Haplanthodes*, in eFI, are very confusing. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Third, internet doesn't feature any photograph of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related species other than those of Dinesh Ji, Prashant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ji and one or two >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of others. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fourth, I do not even know how to differentiate *H. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verticillatus* from *H. tentaculatus*. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dinesh Ji threw some light - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/NbKZ2cRILsc/znbfFPnQ7iAJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/C6E9D20qujk/tAcJAwm8ZEEJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/d6pQ0ry1jP0/wfhnGOsjAWEJ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FBI recorded, corolla in *H. verticillatus* ( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *verticillaris*) is pale lilac; against dark lilac in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=151&cat=1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "brilliant blue" in Dinesh Ji's KEY in link1 above. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prashant Ji has both white & blue colour *H. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nilgherryensis*. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, it is quite impossible for me to decipher the id >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of this species. More so, because except the flowering >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spikes no detail on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sepals, sizes of corolla and calyx etc are available. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this belongs to *H. tantaculatus* group it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unlikely to be var. *plumosa*, because of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following herbarium - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Herb. of *Ruellia tentaculata* - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://linnean-online.org/6882/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possibly type species - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885683 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> var. *nilgherrensis* - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885689 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885688 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885687 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> var. *plumosa* - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885684 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885685 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000885686 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think var. *plumosa* doesn't have dense spike. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:43 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anybody have access to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.3417/2013046? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:55 PM, J.M. Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> efi page on Haplanthodes plumosa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/haplanthodes/haplanthodes-plumosa> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haplanthodes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/a/acanthaceae/haplanthodes> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> species in eFIoraofindia (with details/ keys from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> published papers/ regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ efloras/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> books etc., where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ever available) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Prashant Awale <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 23 March 2015 at 14:03 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:218868] Acanthaceae >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fortnight ::Haplanthodes sp? :: Ganapatipule:: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PKA-MAR29/29: : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Friends, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Came across this Haplanthodes sp. at Jaigad fort >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> near Ganapatipule. Could this be Haplanthodes plumosa?. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindly validate the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ID. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Botanical name:* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Haplanthodes sp. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Family:* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acanthaceae >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date/Time-* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 29-03-2010 /11:40 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jaigad Fort near Ganapatipule- Ratnagiri >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Herb >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Height/Length- * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 30 to 50 cm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opposite, 3 to 5 cm, Some leaves were acuminate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some were with somewhat rounded apex , hairy, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leaf base extending down to petiole, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Inflorescence Type/ Size- * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Photograph enclosed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Flowers sessile, corolla approx. 8 to 12mm, purple >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Photograph enclosed) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not known >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc.- * >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prashant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emails from it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Birds, Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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