Dear Friends, I am not very sure now, because since posting my last mail, I have seen pictures of ripe fruits that are yellow in colour, but the fruits I have seen in my farm is of fruits that are red in colour. We may have to wait a while and study a bit more. Regards Yazdy Palia.
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:24 PM, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear All, > On the basis of the relevant taxonomic characters discussed by Yazdy Ji & > Gurcharan Ji we all can come into a positive conclusion that "The plant in > the attached photographs belong to the genus Solanum sp and its specific > epithet is Solanum viarum". I personally thank all of you for taking the > tedious effort and well planned techniques to decipher the name of this long > discussed plant from West Bengal brought into our notice by Mr. Sibdas > Ghosh. > > THANKS TO ALL > > Regards, > Tanay Bose. > > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I have the following observations >> The plant can't be Solanum xanthocarpum which has subsequently been named >> as S. surattense and now correctly as S. virginianum, because that plant is >> a small spreading subshrub with leaves not velvety. >> The name S. indicum applied to Indian plants is not valid. Some of Indian >> Plants i.e. S. indicum auct with glabrous fruits is correctly S. anguivi, S. >> indicum L. now correctly known as lasiocarpum has tomentose berries. >> S. verbascifolium L. now correctly known as S. erianthum has unarmed >> stems and leaves. >> I think the toss is between S. viarum and S. anguivi: >> >> Solanum viarum Dunal in A. de Candolle, Prodr. 13(1): 240. 1852 >> >> Syn: Solanum khasianum C. B. Clarke var. chatterjeeanum Sen Gupta. >> >> Herbs or subshrubs, erect, 0.5-1(-2) m tall, armed, minutely tomentose >> with many-celled, simple, mostly glandular hairs. Stems and branches terete, >> densely and evenly pubescent with many-celled, simple hairs to 1 mm, armed >> with recurved prickles 2-5 × 1-5(-8) mm and sometimes with needlelike >> prickles 1-4 mm. Leaves unequal paired; petiole stout 3-7 cm, armed with >> erect, flat straight prickles 0.3-1.8 cm; leaf blade broadly ovate, 6-13 × >> 6-12 cm, with prickles and coarse, many-celled, glandular simple hairs on >> both surfaces, these mixed with sparse, sessile, stellate hairs abaxially, >> base truncate to short hastate, margin 3-5-lobed or -parted; lobes blunt at >> apex. Inflorescences extra-axillary, subfasciculate, 1-5-flowered racemes; >> peduncle obsolete or short. Flowers andromonoecious, only basal ones >> fertile. Pedicel 4-6 mm. Calyx campanulate, ca. 10 × 7 mm, lobes >> oblong-lanceolate, 0.6-1.2 mm, hairy and sometimes prickly abaxially. >> Corolla white or green; lobes lanceolate, ca. 2.5 × 10 mm, pubescent as on >> calyx. Filaments 1-1.5 mm; anthers lanceolate, acuminate, 6-7 mm. Ovary >> puberulent. Style ca. 8 mm, glabrous. Berry pale yellow, globose, 2-3 cm in >> diam. Seeds brown, lenticular, 2-2.8 mm in diam. Fl. Jun-Aug, fr. Jun-Oct. >> >> Wastelands, grasslands, thickets, open forests, along ditches, roadsides; >> 1400-2200 m. E Xizang (Zaya Xian), Yunnan [widespread in tropical Asia and >> Africa]. >> >> 8. Solanum anguivi Lam., Tabl. Encycl. 2:23. 1794. Hepper, Bot. J. Linn. >> Soc. 76:290. 1978. >> >> YASIN J. NASIR >> >> A prickly undershrub, 1.5-2 m tall, with dense stellate-tomentose parts. >> Prickles up to 10 mm long, erect to slightly recurved. Leaves 4-15 x 3.5-9 >> cm, ovate to oblong-ovate, repand, acute, both surfaces stellately hairy and >> prickly on the nerves. Petiole up to 2.5 cm long. Flowers 4-15 in number, >> bluish-purple, in extra-axillary cymes. Calyx ± 4 mm long, campanulate, >> stellately hairy. Corolla limb 18-20 mm broad; lobes acute. Anthers 6-7 mm >> long; filaments glabrous. Ovary and style pilose-pubescent. Berry globose, >> (5-)8-10 mm broad, glabrescent, yellow. Seeds ± 3 mm long, subreniform, >> minutely reticulate, foveolate. >> >> Fl. Per.: Mostly throughout the year. >> >> Type: Described from Madagascar, Commerson (MPU, syntype P). >> >> Distribution: S. & S. E. Asia, Arabia and tropical Africa. >> >> Solanum viarum >> Solanum anguivi >> >> Prickcle on stem recurved or needle-like prickles up to 10 >> mm long, >> >> up to 5 mm long >> slightly recurved.or erect >> >> Petiole 3-7 cm, with flat straight prickles Petiole up to >> 2.5 cm, >> >> Leaves unequal pairs, 3-5 lobed Leaves >> oblong-ovate, repand >> >> Flowers in 1-5 fld racemes Flowers >> 4-15, in extraaxillary cymes, >> >> white or green >> flowers bluish-purple >> >> Berry glabrous, pale yellow, 2-3 cm Berry >> glabrous, yellow, 8-10 mm >> >> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=86826&flora_id=5 >> >> I would go with S. viarum on the basis of longer petioles and prickles on >> leaf surface. >> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 9:42 AM, tanay bose <tanaybos...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> DEAR ALL, >>> Please let us come into a decision regarding the specific epithet of this >>> particular plant. Let us all supplement our responses with morphological >>> points; i.e why you call calling this plant belonging to the partical >>> species of Solanum sp [ diagonistic feature of the species]. It will help us >>> all to get into a conclusion and decipher the cprrect name of the plant. >>> >>> Regards >>> Tanay >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 2:39 AM, R. Vijayasankar >>> <vijay.botan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, this is Solanum indicum (= S. anguivi), i think (to be different!!). >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Yazdy Palia <yazdypa...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear friends, >>>>> I think this is Solanum Viarum Dunal >>>>> Please go through the link below. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.discoverlife.org/mp/20q?search=Solanum+viarum&burl=http:/http:/www.invasivespeciesinfo.gov&btxt=InvasiveSpeciesInfo.gov >>>>> Regards >>>>> Yazdy Palia. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 1:54 PM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> > Forwarding again for Id assistance pl. >>>>> > >>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> > From: sibdas ghosh <sibdasgh...@gmail.com> >>>>> > Date: 5 February 2010 20:38 >>>>> > Subject: [efloraofindia:27272] A Solanum sp >>>>> > To: indiantreepix <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > A Solanum (wild), i.d. requested >>>>> > From Pingla, Midnapore, W.B. >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> > Groups >>>>> > "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> > To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> > indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > With regards, >>>>> > J.M.Garg (jmga...@gmail.com) >>>>> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>>> > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>> > Image Resource of more than a thousand species of Birds, Butterflies, >>>>> > Plants >>>>> > etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): >>>>> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg >>>>> > For learning about Indian Flora, visit/ join Google e-group- >>>>> > Efloraofindia:http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> > Groups >>>>> > "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> > To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> > indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> > For more options, visit this group at >>>>> > http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to indiantree...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards >>>> >>>> R. 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