Sir, in all literature, new or old, *Lactuca decipiens* C.B.Clarke (*Melanoseris decipiens* (C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian & Ze H.Wang) has been described as an erect herb.
According to Clarke - "Caulis 2-4 pedalis ...", meaning, I think, stem 2-4 feet. Surprisingly, Flora of British India, Compisitae Indicae, Plants of the Indian Himalayan Region ... none describes flowering season. As per one other document the flowering season is *July to November*, in Kashmir, a time that covers almost all *Lactuca* / *Melanoseris* spp. Thank you Regards Surajit Koley On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 11:49, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Surajit Ji, > > I have found the same plant ( I guess ) in Nepal also ranging from > 2200-2700m. > Plant is not erect but scandent ( dangler) like earlier. Could you please > find out the > flowering phenology for this sp. ? > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 10:17 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Thanks, Surajit ji. >> Yes, May be as per GBIF >> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=9622011>- specimen >> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F382927.jpg> >> and >> others like one >> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm30ff04ec0-bcbb-4978-9425-3f6b6cc8dcf6> >> and two >> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3eacf36f1-71b0-48ef-a971-451ba2517145> >> . >> >> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 21:17, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Perhaps this is your plant - >>> http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77175234-1 >>> >>> Thank you >>> With regards >>> surajit koley >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 21:04, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Saroj ji, please check probability of another one (6 ft height), (*Lactuca >>>> graciliflora* DC. of FBI) >>>> >>>> 1. >>>> >>>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77117990-1 >>>> 2. https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=7744558 >>>> 3. >>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097503 >>>> >>>> Better suited? >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> With regards >>>> surajit koley >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 18:00, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sir ji, I suggest please keep it that way, for it will have its own >>>>> room in eFI ! In future if more information can be obtained from other >>>>> sources, or you happen to find this again and can be identified properly, >>>>> it will be moved to a more furnished room! >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> With regards >>>>> surajit koley >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 12:48, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Looks according to the keys! >>>>>> Thank you Surajit Ji ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 11:20 AM surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, Sir, forgot to attach FBI entry. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 11:03, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As per Flora of British India, the species is upto 4 ft slender >>>>>>>> erect herb, with deltoid leaves, having cordate base. But, KEW >>>>>>>> herbarium >>>>>>>> doesn't show cordate base - >>>>>>>> https://colplanta.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77118020-1. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> KEW has some other spp too - >>>>>>>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:925064-1 >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A paper from Gunjan ji can be consulted - >>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/315893923_First_record_of_Prenanthes_aitchisoniana_Beauv_Roohi_Bano_Qaiser_Asteraceae_from_India >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It was my guess only, since the probability of asteraceae was >>>>>>>> raised and the leaves looked deltoid. It is quite possible it may be >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>> other asteraceae. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 23:54, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Checked but still confusing . Plant is scandent nature! >>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 10:45 PM surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Actually, it is under the genus *Prenanthes* in Flora of British >>>>>>>>>> India, Saroj ji, and presently at least two genera need to be >>>>>>>>>> consulted - >>>>>>>>>> *Lactuca*, *Notoseris*, Please check FoC >>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=122475, >>>>>>>>>> a similar sp. is *N. triflora*, ut with amplexicauled leaf - >>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121251&flora_id=2 >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 22:00, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Surajit ji ! >>>>>>>>>>> Leaf looks slight different. Some other Notoseris ?? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 7:59 PM [email protected] < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If it is Asteraceae, it might be *Notoseris khasiana* >>>>>>>>>>>> (C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 20:43:41 UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding for ID >>>>>>>>>>>>> Distributed as Lactuca species ?- Sukhiapokahari, West Bengal >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/lactuca/lactuca-species/sukhiapokahari> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Group discussion at >>>>>>>>>>>>> SK1187 09 JUNE 2018 (google.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/PmdQ1qdy1p8> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kumar Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 6:29:38 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: SK1187 09 JUNE 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, JM Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>, Tabish <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Location : Sukhiapokahari, Darjeeling, India >>>>>>>>>>>>> Date : 12 May 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation : 6900 ft. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Leaf only ! 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