Thanks, Surajit ji and Saroj ji, Pl. also examine the possibility of *Lactuca brunoniana* (DC.) Wall. ex C.B.Clarke <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/lactuca/prenanthes-brunoniana> as per images and details herein and as per GBIF <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=9364219> specimens- one <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhm.ac.uk%2Fservices%2Fmedia-store%2Fasset%2F0286f82cf2ddd7993f583374007f1f63388b33a9%2Fcontents%2Fpreview>, two <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/438939594> and three <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm34a0a9082-d974-44ec-8571-1f288b428e9b> . However, description here also says it to be erect as per FBI <https://flora.indianbiodiversity.org/content/prenanthes-brunoniana-wall-ex-dc-1> .
On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 20:41, surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote: > Sir, in all literature, new or old, *Lactuca decipiens* C.B.Clarke > (*Melanoseris > decipiens* (C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian & Ze H.Wang) has been described as an > erect herb. > > According to Clarke - "Caulis 2-4 pedalis ...", meaning, I think, stem 2-4 > feet. > > Surprisingly, Flora of British India, Compisitae Indicae, Plants of the > Indian Himalayan Region ... none describes flowering season. As per one > other document the flowering season is *July to November*, in Kashmir, a > time that covers almost all *Lactuca* / *Melanoseris* spp. > > Thank you > Regards > Surajit Koley > > On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 11:49, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Surajit Ji, >> >> I have found the same plant ( I guess ) in Nepal also ranging from >> 2200-2700m. >> Plant is not erect but scandent ( dangler) like earlier. Could you please >> find out the >> flowering phenology for this sp. ? >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 10:17 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Thanks, Surajit ji. >>> Yes, May be as per GBIF >>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=9622011>- specimen >>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F382927.jpg> >>> and >>> others like one >>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm30ff04ec0-bcbb-4978-9425-3f6b6cc8dcf6> >>> and two >>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3eacf36f1-71b0-48ef-a971-451ba2517145> >>> . >>> >>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 21:17, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Perhaps this is your plant - >>>> http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77175234-1 >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> With regards >>>> surajit koley >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 21:04, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Saroj ji, please check probability of another one (6 ft height), (*Lactuca >>>>> graciliflora* DC. of FBI) >>>>> >>>>> 1. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77117990-1 >>>>> 2. https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=7744558 >>>>> 3. >>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097503 >>>>> >>>>> Better suited? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> With regards >>>>> surajit koley >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 18:00, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sir ji, I suggest please keep it that way, for it will have its own >>>>>> room in eFI ! In future if more information can be obtained from other >>>>>> sources, or you happen to find this again and can be identified properly, >>>>>> it will be moved to a more furnished room! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> With regards >>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 12:48, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Looks according to the keys! >>>>>>> Thank you Surajit Ji ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 11:20 AM surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry, Sir, forgot to attach FBI entry. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 11:03, surajit koley < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As per Flora of British India, the species is upto 4 ft slender >>>>>>>>> erect herb, with deltoid leaves, having cordate base. But, KEW >>>>>>>>> herbarium >>>>>>>>> doesn't show cordate base - >>>>>>>>> https://colplanta.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77118020-1. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> KEW has some other spp too - >>>>>>>>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:925064-1 >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A paper from Gunjan ji can be consulted - >>>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/315893923_First_record_of_Prenanthes_aitchisoniana_Beauv_Roohi_Bano_Qaiser_Asteraceae_from_India >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It was my guess only, since the probability of asteraceae was >>>>>>>>> raised and the leaves looked deltoid. It is quite possible it may be >>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>> other asteraceae. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 23:54, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Checked but still confusing . Plant is scandent nature! >>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 10:45 PM surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it is under the genus *Prenanthes* in Flora of >>>>>>>>>>> British India, Saroj ji, and presently at least two genera need to >>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>> consulted - *Lactuca*, *Notoseris*, Please check FoC >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=122475, >>>>>>>>>>> a similar sp. is *N. triflora*, ut with amplexicauled leaf - >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121251&flora_id=2 >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 22:00, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Surajit ji ! >>>>>>>>>>>> Leaf looks slight different. Some other Notoseris ?? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 7:59 PM [email protected] < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If it is Asteraceae, it might be *Notoseris khasiana* >>>>>>>>>>>>> (C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 20:43:41 UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding for ID >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Distributed as Lactuca species ?- Sukhiapokahari, West Bengal >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/lactuca/lactuca-species/sukhiapokahari> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group discussion at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SK1187 09 JUNE 2018 (google.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/PmdQ1qdy1p8> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kumar Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 6:29:38 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: SK1187 09 JUNE 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, JM Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>, Tabish <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location : Sukhiapokahari, Darjeeling, India >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date : 12 May 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation : 6900 ft. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leaf only ! 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