Thank you Surajit Ji ! Saroj Kasaju
On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 11:42 AM surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote: > I attach again the relevant entry of FBI and illustrations referred > therein. One illustration with auricle at leaf base and the other without. > > Following the KEY in FoC, I think your id is correct. > > Thank you > Regards > > > On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 10:45, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > >> OK Surajit JI ! >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 10:59 AM surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I tend to agree with you, Saroj ji, and perhaps you have solved another >>> thread along with this one. But, presently, I cannot remember which one ... >>> let me see ... I'll revert back >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 at 22:09, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> *Senecio scandens *var. *incisus *Franch. ?? >>>> https://www.gbif.org/species/6300154 >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 7:30 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I want clarify here that this sp. is scandent or rather hanging from >>>>> wall type >>>>> whereas L. bruniniana is a erect shrub ! >>>>> Thank you. >>>>> >>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 5:12 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji and Saroj ji, >>>>>> Pl. also examine the possibility of *Lactuca brunoniana* (DC.) Wall. >>>>>> ex C.B.Clarke >>>>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/lactuca/prenanthes-brunoniana> >>>>>> as per images and details herein and as per GBIF >>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=9364219> >>>>>> specimens- one >>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhm.ac.uk%2Fservices%2Fmedia-store%2Fasset%2F0286f82cf2ddd7993f583374007f1f63388b33a9%2Fcontents%2Fpreview>, >>>>>> two <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/438939594> and three >>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm34a0a9082-d974-44ec-8571-1f288b428e9b> >>>>>> . >>>>>> However, description here also says it to be erect as per FBI >>>>>> <https://flora.indianbiodiversity.org/content/prenanthes-brunoniana-wall-ex-dc-1> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 20:41, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sir, in all literature, new or old, *Lactuca decipiens* C.B.Clarke >>>>>>> (*Melanoseris >>>>>>> decipiens* (C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian & Ze H.Wang) has been described as >>>>>>> an erect herb. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> According to Clarke - "Caulis 2-4 pedalis ...", meaning, I think, >>>>>>> stem 2-4 feet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Surprisingly, Flora of British India, Compisitae Indicae, Plants of >>>>>>> the Indian Himalayan Region ... none describes flowering season. As per >>>>>>> one >>>>>>> other document the flowering season is *July to November*, in >>>>>>> Kashmir, a time that covers almost all *Lactuca* / *Melanoseris* >>>>>>> spp. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 11:49, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Surajit Ji, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have found the same plant ( I guess ) in Nepal also ranging from >>>>>>>> 2200-2700m. >>>>>>>> Plant is not erect but scandent ( dangler) like earlier. Could you >>>>>>>> please find out the >>>>>>>> flowering phenology for this sp. ? >>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 10:17 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji. >>>>>>>>> Yes, May be as per GBIF >>>>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=9622011>- >>>>>>>>> specimen >>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F382927.jpg> >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> others like one >>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm30ff04ec0-bcbb-4978-9425-3f6b6cc8dcf6> >>>>>>>>> and two >>>>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3eacf36f1-71b0-48ef-a971-451ba2517145> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 21:17, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Perhaps this is your plant - >>>>>>>>>> http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77175234-1 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 21:04, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Saroj ji, please check probability of another one (6 ft height), >>>>>>>>>>> (*Lactuca graciliflora* DC. of FBI) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77117990-1 >>>>>>>>>>> 2. https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=7744558 >>>>>>>>>>> 3. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097503 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Better suited? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 18:00, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sir ji, I suggest please keep it that way, for it will have its >>>>>>>>>>>> own room in eFI ! In future if more information can be obtained >>>>>>>>>>>> from other >>>>>>>>>>>> sources, or you happen to find this again and can be identified >>>>>>>>>>>> properly, >>>>>>>>>>>> it will be moved to a more furnished room! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 12:48, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks according to the keys! >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Surajit Ji ! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 11:20 AM surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, Sir, forgot to attach FBI entry. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 11:03, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As per Flora of British India, the species is upto 4 ft >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slender erect herb, with deltoid leaves, having cordate base. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, KEW >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> herbarium doesn't show cordate base - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://colplanta.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77118020-1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KEW has some other spp too - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:925064-1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A paper from Gunjan ji can be consulted - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/315893923_First_record_of_Prenanthes_aitchisoniana_Beauv_Roohi_Bano_Qaiser_Asteraceae_from_India >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was my guess only, since the probability of asteraceae >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was raised and the leaves looked deltoid. It is quite possible >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it may be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some other asteraceae. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 23:54, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checked but still confusing . Plant is scandent nature! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 10:45 PM surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it is under the genus *Prenanthes* in Flora of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British India, Saroj ji, and presently at least two genera >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consulted - *Lactuca*, *Notoseris*, Please check FoC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=122475, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a similar sp. is *N. triflora*, ut with amplexicauled >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leaf - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121251&flora_id=2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 22:00, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Surajit ji ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leaf looks slight different. Some other Notoseris ?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 7:59 PM [email protected] < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it is Asteraceae, it might be *Notoseris khasiana* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 20:43:41 UTC+5:30 Gurcharan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Singh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding for ID >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Distributed as Lactuca species ?- Sukhiapokahari, West >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bengal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/lactuca/lactuca-species/sukhiapokahari> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group discussion at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SK1187 09 JUNE 2018 (google.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/PmdQ1qdy1p8> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kumar Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 6:29:38 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: SK1187 09 JUNE 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, JM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Garg <[email protected]>, Tabish <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location : Sukhiapokahari, Darjeeling, India >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date : 12 May 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation : 6900 ft. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leaf only ! 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