OK Surajit JI ! Thank you. Saroj Kasaju
On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 10:59 AM surajit koley <[email protected]> wrote: > I tend to agree with you, Saroj ji, and perhaps you have solved another > thread along with this one. But, presently, I cannot remember which one ... > let me see ... I'll revert back > > Thank you > Regards > > > On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 at 22:09, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: > >> *Senecio scandens *var. *incisus *Franch. ?? >> https://www.gbif.org/species/6300154 >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 7:30 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I want clarify here that this sp. is scandent or rather hanging from >>> wall type >>> whereas L. bruniniana is a erect shrub ! >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 5:12 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Surajit ji and Saroj ji, >>>> Pl. also examine the possibility of *Lactuca brunoniana* (DC.) Wall. >>>> ex C.B.Clarke >>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/lactuca/prenanthes-brunoniana> >>>> as per images and details herein and as per GBIF >>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=9364219> specimens- >>>> one >>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhm.ac.uk%2Fservices%2Fmedia-store%2Fasset%2F0286f82cf2ddd7993f583374007f1f63388b33a9%2Fcontents%2Fpreview>, >>>> two <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/438939594> and three >>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm34a0a9082-d974-44ec-8571-1f288b428e9b> >>>> . >>>> However, description here also says it to be erect as per FBI >>>> <https://flora.indianbiodiversity.org/content/prenanthes-brunoniana-wall-ex-dc-1> >>>> . >>>> >>>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 20:41, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sir, in all literature, new or old, *Lactuca decipiens* C.B.Clarke >>>>> (*Melanoseris >>>>> decipiens* (C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian & Ze H.Wang) has been described as >>>>> an erect herb. >>>>> >>>>> According to Clarke - "Caulis 2-4 pedalis ...", meaning, I think, stem >>>>> 2-4 feet. >>>>> >>>>> Surprisingly, Flora of British India, Compisitae Indicae, Plants of >>>>> the Indian Himalayan Region ... none describes flowering season. As per >>>>> one >>>>> other document the flowering season is *July to November*, in >>>>> Kashmir, a time that covers almost all *Lactuca* / *Melanoseris* spp. >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Regards >>>>> Surajit Koley >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 11:49, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Surajit Ji, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have found the same plant ( I guess ) in Nepal also ranging from >>>>>> 2200-2700m. >>>>>> Plant is not erect but scandent ( dangler) like earlier. Could you >>>>>> please find out the >>>>>> flowering phenology for this sp. ? >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 10:17 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji. >>>>>>> Yes, May be as per GBIF >>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=9622011>- >>>>>>> specimen >>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F382927.jpg> >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> others like one >>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm30ff04ec0-bcbb-4978-9425-3f6b6cc8dcf6> >>>>>>> and two >>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3eacf36f1-71b0-48ef-a971-451ba2517145> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 21:17, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Perhaps this is your plant - >>>>>>>> http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77175234-1 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 21:04, surajit koley < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Saroj ji, please check probability of another one (6 ft height), >>>>>>>>> (*Lactuca >>>>>>>>> graciliflora* DC. of FBI) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77117990-1 >>>>>>>>> 2. https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=7744558 >>>>>>>>> 3. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097503 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Better suited? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 18:00, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sir ji, I suggest please keep it that way, for it will have its >>>>>>>>>> own room in eFI ! In future if more information can be obtained from >>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>> sources, or you happen to find this again and can be identified >>>>>>>>>> properly, >>>>>>>>>> it will be moved to a more furnished room! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 12:48, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Looks according to the keys! >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Surajit Ji ! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 11:20 AM surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, Sir, forgot to attach FBI entry. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 11:03, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> As per Flora of British India, the species is upto 4 ft >>>>>>>>>>>>> slender erect herb, with deltoid leaves, having cordate base. >>>>>>>>>>>>> But, KEW >>>>>>>>>>>>> herbarium doesn't show cordate base - >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://colplanta.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77118020-1 >>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> KEW has some other spp too - >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:925064-1 >>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> A paper from Gunjan ji can be consulted - >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/315893923_First_record_of_Prenanthes_aitchisoniana_Beauv_Roohi_Bano_Qaiser_Asteraceae_from_India >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It was my guess only, since the probability of asteraceae was >>>>>>>>>>>>> raised and the leaves looked deltoid. It is quite possible it may >>>>>>>>>>>>> be some >>>>>>>>>>>>> other asteraceae. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 23:54, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checked but still confusing . Plant is scandent nature! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 10:45 PM surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it is under the genus *Prenanthes* in Flora of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British India, Saroj ji, and presently at least two genera need >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consulted - *Lactuca*, *Notoseris*, Please check FoC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=122475, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a similar sp. is *N. triflora*, ut with amplexicauled leaf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121251&flora_id=2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 22:00, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Surajit ji ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leaf looks slight different. Some other Notoseris ?? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 7:59 PM [email protected] < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it is Asteraceae, it might be *Notoseris khasiana* >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 20:43:41 UTC+5:30 Gurcharan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Singh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding for ID >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Distributed as Lactuca species ?- Sukhiapokahari, West >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bengal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/lactuca/lactuca-species/sukhiapokahari> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group discussion at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SK1187 09 JUNE 2018 (google.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/PmdQ1qdy1p8> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kumar Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 6:29:38 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: SK1187 09 JUNE 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, JM Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>, Tabish <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location : Sukhiapokahari, Darjeeling, India >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date : 12 May 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation : 6900 ft. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leaf only ! 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