I want clarify here that this sp. is scandent or rather hanging from wall type whereas L. bruniniana is a erect shrub ! Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 5:12 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Surajit ji and Saroj ji, > Pl. also examine the possibility of *Lactuca brunoniana* (DC.) Wall. ex > C.B.Clarke > <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/lactuca/prenanthes-brunoniana> > as per images and details herein and as per GBIF > <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=9364219> specimens- one > <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhm.ac.uk%2Fservices%2Fmedia-store%2Fasset%2F0286f82cf2ddd7993f583374007f1f63388b33a9%2Fcontents%2Fpreview>, > two <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/438939594> and three > <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm34a0a9082-d974-44ec-8571-1f288b428e9b> > . > However, description here also says it to be erect as per FBI > <https://flora.indianbiodiversity.org/content/prenanthes-brunoniana-wall-ex-dc-1> > . > > On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 20:41, surajit koley <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Sir, in all literature, new or old, *Lactuca decipiens* C.B.Clarke >> (*Melanoseris >> decipiens* (C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian & Ze H.Wang) has been described as an >> erect herb. >> >> According to Clarke - "Caulis 2-4 pedalis ...", meaning, I think, stem >> 2-4 feet. >> >> Surprisingly, Flora of British India, Compisitae Indicae, Plants of the >> Indian Himalayan Region ... none describes flowering season. As per one >> other document the flowering season is *July to November*, in Kashmir, a >> time that covers almost all *Lactuca* / *Melanoseris* spp. >> >> Thank you >> Regards >> Surajit Koley >> >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 11:49, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear Surajit Ji, >>> >>> I have found the same plant ( I guess ) in Nepal also ranging from >>> 2200-2700m. >>> Plant is not erect but scandent ( dangler) like earlier. Could you >>> please find out the >>> flowering phenology for this sp. ? >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 10:17 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, Surajit ji. >>>> Yes, May be as per GBIF >>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=9622011>- specimen >>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F382927.jpg> >>>> and >>>> others like one >>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm30ff04ec0-bcbb-4978-9425-3f6b6cc8dcf6> >>>> and two >>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3eacf36f1-71b0-48ef-a971-451ba2517145> >>>> . >>>> >>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 21:17, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Perhaps this is your plant - >>>>> http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77175234-1 >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> With regards >>>>> surajit koley >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 21:04, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Saroj ji, please check probability of another one (6 ft height), >>>>>> (*Lactuca >>>>>> graciliflora* DC. of FBI) >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77117990-1 >>>>>> 2. https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=7744558 >>>>>> 3. >>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097503 >>>>>> >>>>>> Better suited? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> With regards >>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 18:00, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Sir ji, I suggest please keep it that way, for it will have its own >>>>>>> room in eFI ! In future if more information can be obtained from other >>>>>>> sources, or you happen to find this again and can be identified >>>>>>> properly, >>>>>>> it will be moved to a more furnished room! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 12:48, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Looks according to the keys! >>>>>>>> Thank you Surajit Ji ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 11:20 AM surajit koley < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sorry, Sir, forgot to attach FBI entry. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 11:03, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As per Flora of British India, the species is upto 4 ft slender >>>>>>>>>> erect herb, with deltoid leaves, having cordate base. But, KEW >>>>>>>>>> herbarium >>>>>>>>>> doesn't show cordate base - >>>>>>>>>> https://colplanta.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77118020-1. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> KEW has some other spp too - >>>>>>>>>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:925064-1 >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> A paper from Gunjan ji can be consulted - >>>>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/315893923_First_record_of_Prenanthes_aitchisoniana_Beauv_Roohi_Bano_Qaiser_Asteraceae_from_India >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It was my guess only, since the probability of asteraceae was >>>>>>>>>> raised and the leaves looked deltoid. It is quite possible it may be >>>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>> other asteraceae. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 23:54, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Checked but still confusing . Plant is scandent nature! >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 10:45 PM surajit koley < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it is under the genus *Prenanthes* in Flora of >>>>>>>>>>>> British India, Saroj ji, and presently at least two genera need to >>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>> consulted - *Lactuca*, *Notoseris*, Please check FoC >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=122475, >>>>>>>>>>>> a similar sp. is *N. triflora*, ut with amplexicauled leaf - >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121251&flora_id=2 >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>>>> With regards >>>>>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 22:00, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Surajit ji ! >>>>>>>>>>>>> Leaf looks slight different. Some other Notoseris ?? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 7:59 PM [email protected] < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it is Asteraceae, it might be *Notoseris khasiana* >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 20:43:41 UTC+5:30 Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding for ID >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Distributed as Lactuca species ?- Sukhiapokahari, West >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bengal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/lactuca/lactuca-species/sukhiapokahari> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group discussion at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SK1187 09 JUNE 2018 (google.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/PmdQ1qdy1p8> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kumar Kasaju <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 6:29:38 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: SK1187 09 JUNE 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, JM Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>, Tabish <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location : Sukhiapokahari, Darjeeling, India >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date : 12 May 2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation : 6900 ft. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leaf only ! 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