I tend to agree with you, Saroj ji, and perhaps you have solved another
thread along with this one. But, presently, I cannot remember which one ...
let me see ... I'll revert back

Thank you
Regards


On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 at 22:09, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> wrote:

> *Senecio scandens *var. *incisus *Franch. ??
> https://www.gbif.org/species/6300154
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 7:30 PM Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I want clarify here that this sp. is scandent or rather hanging from wall
>> type
>> whereas L. bruniniana is a erect shrub !
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 5:12 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Surajit ji and Saroj ji,
>>> Pl. also examine the possibility of *Lactuca brunoniana* (DC.) Wall. ex
>>> C.B.Clarke
>>> <https://efloraofindia.com/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/lactuca/prenanthes-brunoniana>
>>>  as per images and details herein and as per GBIF
>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=9364219> specimens-
>>> one
>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhm.ac.uk%2Fservices%2Fmedia-store%2Fasset%2F0286f82cf2ddd7993f583374007f1f63388b33a9%2Fcontents%2Fpreview>,
>>> two <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/438939594> and three
>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm34a0a9082-d974-44ec-8571-1f288b428e9b>
>>> .
>>> However, description here also says it to be erect as per FBI
>>> <https://flora.indianbiodiversity.org/content/prenanthes-brunoniana-wall-ex-dc-1>
>>> .
>>>
>>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 20:41, surajit koley <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sir, in all literature, new or old, *Lactuca decipiens* C.B.Clarke 
>>>> (*Melanoseris
>>>> decipiens* (C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian & Ze H.Wang) has been described as an
>>>> erect herb.
>>>>
>>>> According to Clarke - "Caulis 2-4 pedalis ...", meaning, I think, stem
>>>> 2-4 feet.
>>>>
>>>> Surprisingly, Flora of British India, Compisitae Indicae, Plants of the
>>>> Indian Himalayan Region ... none describes flowering season. As per one
>>>> other document the flowering season is *July to November*, in Kashmir,
>>>> a time that covers almost all *Lactuca* / *Melanoseris* spp.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Regards
>>>> Surajit Koley
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 11:49, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Surajit Ji,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have found  the same plant ( I guess ) in Nepal also ranging from
>>>>> 2200-2700m.
>>>>> Plant is not erect but scandent ( dangler) like earlier. Could you
>>>>> please find out the
>>>>> flowering phenology for this sp. ?
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 10:17 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Surajit ji.
>>>>>> Yes, May be as per GBIF
>>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=9622011>- specimen
>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kew.org%2Fherbcatimg%2F382927.jpg>
>>>>>>  and
>>>>>> others like one
>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm30ff04ec0-bcbb-4978-9425-3f6b6cc8dcf6>
>>>>>> and two
>>>>>> <https://api.gbif.org/v1/image/unsafe/http%3A%2F%2Fn2t.net%2Fark%3A%2F65665%2Fm3eacf36f1-71b0-48ef-a971-451ba2517145>
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 21:17, surajit koley <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps this is your plant -
>>>>>>> http://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77175234-1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>> With regards
>>>>>>> surajit koley
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 21:04, surajit koley <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Saroj ji, please check probability of another one (6 ft height), 
>>>>>>>> (*Lactuca
>>>>>>>> graciliflora* DC. of FBI)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    1.
>>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77117990-1
>>>>>>>>    2. https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=7744558
>>>>>>>>    3.
>>>>>>>>    http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=250097503
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Better suited?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>> With regards
>>>>>>>> surajit koley
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 18:00, surajit koley <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sir ji, I suggest please keep it that way, for it will have its
>>>>>>>>> own room in eFI ! In future if more information can be obtained from 
>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>> sources, or you happen to find this again and can be identified 
>>>>>>>>> properly,
>>>>>>>>> it will be moved to a more furnished room!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>>> With regards
>>>>>>>>> surajit koley
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 12:48, Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Looks according to the keys!
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Surajit Ji !
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 11:20 AM surajit koley <
>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, Sir, forgot to attach FBI entry.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>>>>> With regards
>>>>>>>>>>> surajit koley
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 at 11:03, surajit koley <
>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As per Flora of British India, the species is upto 4 ft slender
>>>>>>>>>>>> erect herb, with deltoid leaves, having cordate base. But, KEW 
>>>>>>>>>>>> herbarium
>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't show cordate base -
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://colplanta.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:77118020-1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> KEW has some other spp too -
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.plantsoftheworldonline.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:925064-1
>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A paper from Gunjan ji can be consulted -
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.researchgate.net/publication/315893923_First_record_of_Prenanthes_aitchisoniana_Beauv_Roohi_Bano_Qaiser_Asteraceae_from_India
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It was my guess only, since the probability of asteraceae was
>>>>>>>>>>>> raised and the leaves looked deltoid. It is quite possible it may 
>>>>>>>>>>>> be some
>>>>>>>>>>>> other asteraceae.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit koley
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 23:54, Saroj Kasaju <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Checked but still confusing . Plant is scandent nature!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 10:45 PM surajit koley <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, it is under the genus *Prenanthes* in Flora of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> British India, Saroj ji, and presently at least two genera need 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consulted - *Lactuca*, *Notoseris*,  Please check FoC
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=122475,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a similar sp. is *N. triflora*, ut with amplexicauled leaf -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=121251&flora_id=2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surajit koley
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 at 22:00, Saroj Kasaju <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Surajit ji !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leaf looks slight different. Some other Notoseris ??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 7:59 PM [email protected] <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If it is Asteraceae, it might be *Notoseris khasiana*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (C.B.Clarke) N.Kilian.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, 14 June 2021 at 20:43:41 UTC+5:30 Gurcharan
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Singh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding for ID
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Distributed as Lactuca species ?- Sukhiapokahari, West
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bengal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/cichorioideae/cichorieae/lactuca/lactuca-species/sukhiapokahari>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group discussion at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SK1187 09 JUNE 2018 (google.com)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/PmdQ1qdy1p8>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Saroj Kumar Kasaju <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 6:29:38 PM UTC+5:30
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: SK1187 09 JUNE 2018
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, JM Garg <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]>, Tabish <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location : Sukhiapokahari, Darjeeling, India
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date : 12 May 2018
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation :  6900 ft.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leaf only !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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