And the comparative descriptions from BSI Flora of India:


Artemisia dubia
<https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5044&type=4>

Artemisia nilagirica
<https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5057&type=4>



Herbs, erect, glabrous or puberulous to pubescent; stems pale green or
sometimes purple,* up to 40 cm high,** grooved and ribbed.* *Radical leaves
3-fid or absent; cauline leaves 2 - 7 cm long; lower leaves 2 -
3-pinnatifid or partite; segments linear-lanceolate to lanceolate, upper
narrowly lanceolate, entire, or pinnatisect to trifid acute, glabrous or
adpressed puberulous to pubescent beneath; Heads green yellow, glabrous,
shining, sessile or shortly peduncled, solitary and distant or in clusters
of 2 - 3, forming panicled racemes or slender lax short racemes subglobose
to globose-campanulate, ca 1.5 - 3 mm in diam. *Outer involucral bracts
pale white, oblong, obtuse with pale white to thick brown scarious margins,
1.5 - 3.5 mm long; inner broadly oblong, obtuse, almost hyaline or with
narrow scarious margins, ca 2 - 2.5 mm long. Receptacle naked. Outer
florets female, fertile ca 1 - 2 mm long. Disc florets hermaphrodite,
sterile; bluntly tubular, attenuate, ca 1.5 - 3 mm long, simple or
glandular, limb obscurely 5-lobed. Achenes not seen.

*Distrib.*: India: W. Himalayas, between 2500-4500 m. Jammu & Kashmir,
Himachal Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh (var. *dubia*)
India: W. Himalayas, in drier parts, between 1500-4500 m. Jammu & Kashmir,
Himachal Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh (var. *subdigitata*)

Herbs, robust, more or less slender, hoary pubescent or tomentose, *1 - 1.5
m tall; **stems paniculately branched, leafy. Leaves large, ovate-elliptic
or prominently lobed, or incised laciniate, up to 18 x 18 cm, prominently
nerved beneath, nerves and branches densely tomentose.* *Heads
hermaphrodite, crowded or lax in large, lax or dense, sparsely leafy
panicles, globose-campanulate, exceedingly tomentose.* Disc florets small;
corolla densely minutely glandular, tube gradually longitudinally narrowed
from the 3/4 of the corolla, attenuate.










*Distrib. *India: Deccan Peninsula. Maharashtra (Bombay) (var. *nilagirica *
forma *nilagirica*)

India: Deccan Peninsula, at 2500 m. Tamil Nadu (var. *nilagirica *var.
forma: *lobalata*)
India: W. Himalayas, at 1500 m. Himachal Pradesh (Simla) (var.
*septentrionali*s)

On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 at 13:26, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Here are the keys from BSI Flora of India
> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=4526&type=3>:
> 3a. Outer florets female, fertile; disc florets sterile *4*
> b. Outer female florets and disc florets all fertile *9*
> 4a. Perennial herbs *5*
> b. Annual herbs *8*
> 5a. Heads secund; cauline leaves with stipule like appendages at the base
> 16. *Artemisia japonica
> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5052&type=4>*
> b. Heads not secund; cauline leaves without the appendages at the base *6*
> 6a. Leaves entire, weakly toothed; radical leaves 3-fid or absent 8. 
> *Artemisia
> dracunculus
> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5043&type=4>*
> b. Leaves 2 - 3-pinnatisect or pinnatifid, only upper ones entire *7*
> 7a. Stems pale white; heads in simple or panicled racemes 24. *Artemisia
> salsoloides
> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5060&type=4>*
> b. Stems pale green, sometimes purple; heads solitary and distant or in
> cluster of 2-3-short forming panicled racemes 9. *Artemisia dubia
> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5044&type=4>*
> 8a. Heads secund; involucral bracts glabrous; achenes narrowly obovate 6. 
> *Artemisia
> capillaris
> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5041&type=4>*
> b. Heads not secund; involucral bracts hairy; achenes narrowly obconic
> 27. *Artemisia stricta
> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5063&type=4>*
> 9a. Annual or biennial herbs *10*
> b. Perennial herbs *12*
> 10a. Small herbs, ca 15-30 cm high; involucral bracts pubescent; heads
> rather large 4. *Artemisia biennis
> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5039&type=4>*
> b. Tall herbs, up to 1.2 m high; involucral bracts glabrous; heads small
> *11*
> 11a. Heads hemispheric, pedicelled, secund, drooping in axillary leafy
> racemes 7. *Artemisia caruifolia
> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5042&type=4>*
> b. Heads ovoid, erect in very dense axillary erect sessile, compound
> thyrsoid panicles 30. *Artemisia tournefortiana
> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5066&type=4>*
> 12a. Heads usually small, 1.25-4 mm in diam., often in spreading panicled
> spikes or racemes *13*
> b. Heads rather large 4-8 mm in diam. in simple, sparingly branched, erect
> axillary and terminal racemes *27*
> 13a. Leaves simple, lobed or serrate *14*
> b. Leaves pinnatifid, pinnatisect of pinnati-partite *15*
> 14a. Hoary pubescent or tomentose herbs; leaves ovate-elliptic, lobed;
> heads ovoid 21. *Artemisia nilagirica
> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5057&type=4>*
>
>
>
> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 at 16:26, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Garg ji,
>>    I did notice that there are a few other type of specimens too for 
>> Artemisia
>> nilagirica at GBIF. However, I believe that those may be
>> misidentifications.
>>    Tabish
>> -------------------------------------------
>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 10:35 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Tabish ji.
>>> If you check in GBIF
>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3120735>, both types
>>> of specimens are available.
>>> Keys between the two may help.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 at 14:30, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also check out this GBIF specimen of Artemisia nilagirica
>>>>    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2610917440
>>>>    Tabish
>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 2:24 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes Garg ji,
>>>>>   I believe that lack of reporting from south India may be due to
>>>>> widespread misidentification. If you closely follow the description & the
>>>>> few correct herbaria, you can see the difference. An example of correct
>>>>> representation of *Artemisia nilagirica*, will be the images by
>>>>> Sushant More on GBIF and iNaturalist:
>>>>>    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3017958685
>>>>>    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/67413716
>>>>> In the description of Artemisia nilagirica on FOC
>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200023284>,
>>>>> the leaves are supposed to have "...segments 1-3 pairs, *ovate or
>>>>> oblong-ovate*, usually 1- or 2-serrate, acuminate apically." The
>>>>> narrow, almost linear segments, of the leaves, which are untoothed,
>>>>> of other plants do not fit this description.
>>>>>   This, coupled with the images of Artemisia dubia on POWO, in my
>>>>> opinion, makes a strong case for this view.
>>>>>   Tabish
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb, 2023, 1:24 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Tabish ji, for the feedback.
>>>>>> But if you see, a lot of observations here (
>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/07/artemisia-nilagirica/) are from
>>>>>> South India, where POWO
>>>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:60475130-2>
>>>>>> does not give any distribution for A.dubia.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 09:24, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, this should be *Artemisia nilagirica*, which is quite a
>>>>>>> misidentified plant in India. The broad, toothed segments of the leaves 
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> a clear signature. The more common plant with narrow, untoothed leaf
>>>>>>> segments is *Artemisia dubia*. In fact, all the plants listed on
>>>>>>> the eFI page for Artemisia nilagarica
>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/anthemideae/artemisia/artemisia-nilagirica>
>>>>>>> page should belong to *Artemisia dubia*. You can compare with the
>>>>>>> images of Artemisia dubia at POWO
>>>>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:60475130-2>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>    Tabish
>>>>>>> On Monday, June 10, 2013 at 8:08:28 PM UTC+5:30 Satish Phadke wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This *Artemisia *plant was photographed in Sinhagad valley. It is
>>>>>>>> commonly observed in western ghats.
>>>>>>>> Is it *Artemisia nilagirica*?
>>>>>>>> Dr Satish Phadke
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
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