Further description from Flora of China can also be checked: http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200023284 http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200023206
On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 at 13:47, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > And the comparative descriptions from BSI Flora of India: > > > > Artemisia dubia > <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5044&type=4> > > Artemisia nilagirica > <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5057&type=4> > > > > Herbs, erect, glabrous or puberulous to pubescent; stems pale green or > sometimes purple,* up to 40 cm high,** grooved and ribbed.* *Radical > leaves 3-fid or absent; cauline leaves 2 - 7 cm long; lower leaves 2 - > 3-pinnatifid or partite; segments linear-lanceolate to lanceolate, upper > narrowly lanceolate, entire, or pinnatisect to trifid acute, glabrous or > adpressed puberulous to pubescent beneath; Heads green yellow, glabrous, > shining, sessile or shortly peduncled, solitary and distant or in clusters > of 2 - 3, forming panicled racemes or slender lax short racemes subglobose > to globose-campanulate, ca 1.5 - 3 mm in diam. *Outer involucral bracts > pale white, oblong, obtuse with pale white to thick brown scarious margins, > 1.5 - 3.5 mm long; inner broadly oblong, obtuse, almost hyaline or with > narrow scarious margins, ca 2 - 2.5 mm long. Receptacle naked. Outer > florets female, fertile ca 1 - 2 mm long. Disc florets hermaphrodite, > sterile; bluntly tubular, attenuate, ca 1.5 - 3 mm long, simple or > glandular, limb obscurely 5-lobed. Achenes not seen. > > *Distrib.*: India: W. Himalayas, between 2500-4500 m. Jammu & Kashmir, > Himachal Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh (var. *dubia*) > India: W. Himalayas, in drier parts, between 1500-4500 m. Jammu & Kashmir, > Himachal Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh (var. *subdigitata*) > > Herbs, robust, more or less slender, hoary pubescent or tomentose, *1 - > 1.5 m tall; **stems paniculately branched, leafy. Leaves large, > ovate-elliptic or prominently lobed, or incised laciniate, up to 18 x 18 > cm, prominently nerved beneath, nerves and branches densely tomentose.* *Heads > hermaphrodite, crowded or lax in large, lax or dense, sparsely leafy > panicles, globose-campanulate, exceedingly tomentose.* Disc florets > small; corolla densely minutely glandular, tube gradually longitudinally > narrowed from the 3/4 of the corolla, attenuate. > > > > > > > > > > > *Distrib. *India: Deccan Peninsula. Maharashtra (Bombay) (var. > *nilagirica *forma *nilagirica*) > > India: Deccan Peninsula, at 2500 m. Tamil Nadu (var. *nilagirica *var. > forma: *lobalata*) > India: W. Himalayas, at 1500 m. Himachal Pradesh (Simla) (var. > *septentrionali*s) > > On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 at 13:26, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Here are the keys from BSI Flora of India >> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=4526&type=3>: >> 3a. Outer florets female, fertile; disc florets sterile *4* >> b. Outer female florets and disc florets all fertile *9* >> 4a. Perennial herbs *5* >> b. Annual herbs *8* >> 5a. Heads secund; cauline leaves with stipule like appendages at the base >> 16. *Artemisia japonica >> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5052&type=4>* >> b. Heads not secund; cauline leaves without the appendages at the base >> *6* >> 6a. Leaves entire, weakly toothed; radical leaves 3-fid or absent 8. >> *Artemisia >> dracunculus >> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5043&type=4>* >> b. Leaves 2 - 3-pinnatisect or pinnatifid, only upper ones entire *7* >> 7a. Stems pale white; heads in simple or panicled racemes 24. *Artemisia >> salsoloides >> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5060&type=4>* >> b. Stems pale green, sometimes purple; heads solitary and distant or in >> cluster of 2-3-short forming panicled racemes 9. *Artemisia dubia >> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5044&type=4>* >> 8a. Heads secund; involucral bracts glabrous; achenes narrowly obovate >> 6. *Artemisia capillaris >> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5041&type=4>* >> b. Heads not secund; involucral bracts hairy; achenes narrowly obconic >> 27. *Artemisia stricta >> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5063&type=4>* >> 9a. Annual or biennial herbs *10* >> b. Perennial herbs *12* >> 10a. Small herbs, ca 15-30 cm high; involucral bracts pubescent; heads >> rather large 4. *Artemisia biennis >> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5039&type=4>* >> b. Tall herbs, up to 1.2 m high; involucral bracts glabrous; heads small >> *11* >> 11a. Heads hemispheric, pedicelled, secund, drooping in axillary leafy >> racemes 7. *Artemisia caruifolia >> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5042&type=4>* >> b. Heads ovoid, erect in very dense axillary erect sessile, compound >> thyrsoid panicles 30. *Artemisia tournefortiana >> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5066&type=4>* >> 12a. Heads usually small, 1.25-4 mm in diam., often in spreading >> panicled spikes or racemes *13* >> b. Heads rather large 4-8 mm in diam. in simple, sparingly branched, >> erect axillary and terminal racemes *27* >> 13a. Leaves simple, lobed or serrate *14* >> b. Leaves pinnatifid, pinnatisect of pinnati-partite *15* >> 14a. Hoary pubescent or tomentose herbs; leaves ovate-elliptic, lobed; >> heads ovoid 21. *Artemisia nilagirica >> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5057&type=4>* >> >> >> >> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 at 16:26, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Garg ji, >>> I did notice that there are a few other type of specimens too for >>> Artemisia >>> nilagirica at GBIF. However, I believe that those may be >>> misidentifications. >>> Tabish >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 10:35 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks, Tabish ji. >>>> If you check in GBIF >>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3120735>, both >>>> types of specimens are available. >>>> Keys between the two may help. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 at 14:30, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Also check out this GBIF specimen of Artemisia nilagirica >>>>> https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2610917440 >>>>> Tabish >>>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 2:24 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yes Garg ji, >>>>>> I believe that lack of reporting from south India may be due to >>>>>> widespread misidentification. If you closely follow the description & the >>>>>> few correct herbaria, you can see the difference. An example of correct >>>>>> representation of *Artemisia nilagirica*, will be the images by >>>>>> Sushant More on GBIF and iNaturalist: >>>>>> https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3017958685 >>>>>> https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/67413716 >>>>>> In the description of Artemisia nilagirica on FOC >>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200023284>, >>>>>> the leaves are supposed to have "...segments 1-3 pairs, *ovate or >>>>>> oblong-ovate*, usually 1- or 2-serrate, acuminate apically." The >>>>>> narrow, almost linear segments, of the leaves, which are untoothed, >>>>>> of other plants do not fit this description. >>>>>> This, coupled with the images of Artemisia dubia on POWO, in my >>>>>> opinion, makes a strong case for this view. >>>>>> Tabish >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb, 2023, 1:24 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, Tabish ji, for the feedback. >>>>>>> But if you see, a lot of observations here ( >>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/07/artemisia-nilagirica/) are >>>>>>> from South India, where POWO >>>>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:60475130-2> >>>>>>> does not give any distribution for A.dubia. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 09:24, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, this should be *Artemisia nilagirica*, which is quite a >>>>>>>> misidentified plant in India. The broad, toothed segments of the >>>>>>>> leaves are >>>>>>>> a clear signature. The more common plant with narrow, untoothed leaf >>>>>>>> segments is *Artemisia dubia*. In fact, all the plants listed on >>>>>>>> the eFI page for Artemisia nilagarica >>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/anthemideae/artemisia/artemisia-nilagirica> >>>>>>>> page should belong to *Artemisia dubia*. You can compare with the >>>>>>>> images of Artemisia dubia at POWO >>>>>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:60475130-2> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Tabish >>>>>>>> On Monday, June 10, 2013 at 8:08:28 PM UTC+5:30 Satish Phadke wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This *Artemisia *plant was photographed in Sinhagad valley. It is >>>>>>>>> commonly observed in western ghats. >>>>>>>>> Is it *Artemisia nilagirica*? >>>>>>>>> Dr Satish Phadke >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/4bb89cb0-7b36-45e0-ab72-33e45f3111a5n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/4bb89cb0-7b36-45e0-ab72-33e45f3111a5n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- With regards, J.M.Garg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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