And the comparative descriptions from Flora of China:


Artemisia dubia
<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200023206>

Artemisia nilagirica
<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200023284>



*Subshrubs, 80-120(-180) cm tall, *much branched; branches 15-35 cm or
more, usually flexuous, pubescent or glabrescent. *Leaves shortly petiolate
to almost sessile, abaxially grayish green arachnoid hairy to subglabrous,
adaxially green and white dotted with or without sparse T-shaped hairs.
Lowermost leaves ovate or oblong, 5-partite. Middle stem leaves ovate, 5-12
× 3-7(-9) cm, 5-partite; lobes elliptic, oblong-lanceolate, or lanceolate,
30-80 × 5-12 mm, base attenuate.* *Uppermost leaves ternate, 3-partite;
leaflike bracts entire, elliptic-lanceolate or lanceolate.* *Synflorescence
a narrow to broad panicle,* 15-30 × 10-20 cm; primary branches ascending to
± patent (upper), to 25 × 2-3 cm. Capitula many, almost sessile. Involucre
broadly ovoid or globose, 1.5-2 mm in diam.; outer phyllaries sparsely
arachnoid hairy, green, apex acute. Florets 8-20, purplish. Marginal
florets 6-8; corolla basally broadened, 2-toothed. Disk florets 2-12, male;
corolla tube glandular, apex very sparsely hairy. Achenes brown, oblong or
obovoid, 1.25-1.5 mm. Fl. and fr. Aug-Oct. 2*n* = 34, 54.

*Distrib.*:  Dry slopes, steppes, forest margins, roadsides; low elevations
to 3500 m. S Gansu, Nei Mongol, W Sichuan, E Xizang, W Yunnan [Bhutan,
India, Japan, Nepal, Thailand]. (var. *dubia*)
lopes, riverbanks, roadsides, valleys, canyons, forest margins; low
elevations to 3000 m. C and S Gansu, NW Guangxi, Guizhou, Hebei, S Henan, W
Hubei, S Nei Mongol, Ningxia, Qinghai, Shaanxi, W Shandong, Shanxi,
Sichuan, Yunnan [Bhutan, N India, Nepal]. (var. *subdigitata*)

*Herbs, perennial, 20-60 cm tall, *puberulent or glabrescent. *Middle stem
leaves ± sessile; leaf blade ovate or elliptic-ovate, 5-6 × 3-5 cm
abaxially densely gray tomentose, pinnatifid; segments 1-3 pairs, ovate or
oblong-ovate, usually 1- or 2-serrate, acuminate apically.* *Uppermost
leaves and leaflike bracts oblong-ovate, few serrate.* *Synflorescence a
broad panicle.* Involucre ovoid or ovoid-campanulate, 1-2 mm in diam.;
phyllaries puberulent. Marginal female florets 3 or 4. Disk florets 4-8,
bisexual. Achenes obovoid. Fl. and fr. Aug-Oct. 2*n* = 18, 54.










*Distrib. *SW Sichuan, SE Xizang [N India, N Myanmar].

On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 at 13:48, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Further description from Flora of China can also be checked:
> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200023284
> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200023206
>
>
>
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 at 13:47, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> And the comparative descriptions from BSI Flora of India:
>>
>>
>>
>> Artemisia dubia
>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5044&type=4>
>>
>> Artemisia nilagirica
>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5057&type=4>
>>
>>
>>
>> Herbs, erect, glabrous or puberulous to pubescent; stems pale green or
>> sometimes purple,* up to 40 cm high,** grooved and ribbed.* *Radical
>> leaves 3-fid or absent; cauline leaves 2 - 7 cm long; lower leaves 2 -
>> 3-pinnatifid or partite; segments linear-lanceolate to lanceolate, upper
>> narrowly lanceolate, entire, or pinnatisect to trifid acute, glabrous or
>> adpressed puberulous to pubescent beneath; Heads green yellow, glabrous,
>> shining, sessile or shortly peduncled, solitary and distant or in clusters
>> of 2 - 3, forming panicled racemes or slender lax short racemes subglobose
>> to globose-campanulate, ca 1.5 - 3 mm in diam. *Outer involucral bracts
>> pale white, oblong, obtuse with pale white to thick brown scarious margins,
>> 1.5 - 3.5 mm long; inner broadly oblong, obtuse, almost hyaline or with
>> narrow scarious margins, ca 2 - 2.5 mm long. Receptacle naked. Outer
>> florets female, fertile ca 1 - 2 mm long. Disc florets hermaphrodite,
>> sterile; bluntly tubular, attenuate, ca 1.5 - 3 mm long, simple or
>> glandular, limb obscurely 5-lobed. Achenes not seen.
>>
>> *Distrib.*: India: W. Himalayas, between 2500-4500 m. Jammu & Kashmir,
>> Himachal Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh (var. *dubia*)
>> India: W. Himalayas, in drier parts, between 1500-4500 m. Jammu &
>> Kashmir, Himachal Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh (var. *subdigitata*)
>>
>> Herbs, robust, more or less slender, hoary pubescent or tomentose, *1 -
>> 1.5 m tall; **stems paniculately branched, leafy. Leaves large,
>> ovate-elliptic or prominently lobed, or incised laciniate, up to 18 x 18
>> cm, prominently nerved beneath, nerves and branches densely tomentose.* 
>> *Heads
>> hermaphrodite, crowded or lax in large, lax or dense, sparsely leafy
>> panicles, globose-campanulate, exceedingly tomentose.* Disc florets
>> small; corolla densely minutely glandular, tube gradually longitudinally
>> narrowed from the 3/4 of the corolla, attenuate.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Distrib. *India: Deccan Peninsula. Maharashtra (Bombay) (var.
>> *nilagirica *forma *nilagirica*)
>>
>> India: Deccan Peninsula, at 2500 m. Tamil Nadu (var. *nilagirica *var.
>> forma: *lobalata*)
>> India: W. Himalayas, at 1500 m. Himachal Pradesh (Simla) (var.
>> *septentrionali*s)
>>
>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 at 13:26, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Here are the keys from BSI Flora of India
>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=4526&type=3>:
>>> 3a. Outer florets female, fertile; disc florets sterile *4*
>>> b. Outer female florets and disc florets all fertile *9*
>>> 4a. Perennial herbs *5*
>>> b. Annual herbs *8*
>>> 5a. Heads secund; cauline leaves with stipule like appendages at the base
>>> 16. *Artemisia japonica
>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5052&type=4>*
>>> b. Heads not secund; cauline leaves without the appendages at the base
>>> *6*
>>> 6a. Leaves entire, weakly toothed; radical leaves 3-fid or absent 8. 
>>> *Artemisia
>>> dracunculus
>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5043&type=4>*
>>> b. Leaves 2 - 3-pinnatisect or pinnatifid, only upper ones entire *7*
>>> 7a. Stems pale white; heads in simple or panicled racemes 24. *Artemisia
>>> salsoloides
>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5060&type=4>*
>>> b. Stems pale green, sometimes purple; heads solitary and distant or in
>>> cluster of 2-3-short forming panicled racemes 9. *Artemisia dubia
>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5044&type=4>*
>>> 8a. Heads secund; involucral bracts glabrous; achenes narrowly obovate
>>> 6. *Artemisia capillaris
>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5041&type=4>*
>>> b. Heads not secund; involucral bracts hairy; achenes narrowly obconic
>>> 27. *Artemisia stricta
>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5063&type=4>*
>>> 9a. Annual or biennial herbs *10*
>>> b. Perennial herbs *12*
>>> 10a. Small herbs, ca 15-30 cm high; involucral bracts pubescent; heads
>>> rather large 4. *Artemisia biennis
>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5039&type=4>*
>>> b. Tall herbs, up to 1.2 m high; involucral bracts glabrous; heads small
>>> *11*
>>> 11a. Heads hemispheric, pedicelled, secund, drooping in axillary leafy
>>> racemes 7. *Artemisia caruifolia
>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5042&type=4>*
>>> b. Heads ovoid, erect in very dense axillary erect sessile, compound
>>> thyrsoid panicles 30. *Artemisia tournefortiana
>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5066&type=4>*
>>> 12a. Heads usually small, 1.25-4 mm in diam., often in spreading
>>> panicled spikes or racemes *13*
>>> b. Heads rather large 4-8 mm in diam. in simple, sparingly branched,
>>> erect axillary and terminal racemes *27*
>>> 13a. Leaves simple, lobed or serrate *14*
>>> b. Leaves pinnatifid, pinnatisect of pinnati-partite *15*
>>> 14a. Hoary pubescent or tomentose herbs; leaves ovate-elliptic, lobed;
>>> heads ovoid 21. *Artemisia nilagirica
>>> <https://efloraindia.bsi.gov.in/eFlora/taxonList.action?id=5057&type=4>*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 at 16:26, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Garg ji,
>>>>    I did notice that there are a few other type of specimens too for 
>>>> Artemisia
>>>> nilagirica at GBIF. However, I believe that those may be
>>>> misidentifications.
>>>>    Tabish
>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 10:35 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Tabish ji.
>>>>> If you check in GBIF
>>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=3120735>, both
>>>>> types of specimens are available.
>>>>> Keys between the two may help.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 at 14:30, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also check out this GBIF specimen of Artemisia nilagirica
>>>>>>    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/2610917440
>>>>>>    Tabish
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------
>>>>>> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net
>>>>>> The waterhole of flower lovers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 2:24 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes Garg ji,
>>>>>>>   I believe that lack of reporting from south India may be due to
>>>>>>> widespread misidentification. If you closely follow the description & 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> few correct herbaria, you can see the difference. An example of correct
>>>>>>> representation of *Artemisia nilagirica*, will be the images by
>>>>>>> Sushant More on GBIF and iNaturalist:
>>>>>>>    https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3017958685
>>>>>>>    https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/67413716
>>>>>>> In the description of Artemisia nilagirica on FOC
>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200023284>,
>>>>>>> the leaves are supposed to have "...segments 1-3 pairs, *ovate or
>>>>>>> oblong-ovate*, usually 1- or 2-serrate, acuminate apically." The
>>>>>>> narrow, almost linear segments, of the leaves, which are untoothed,
>>>>>>> of other plants do not fit this description.
>>>>>>>   This, coupled with the images of Artemisia dubia on POWO, in my
>>>>>>> opinion, makes a strong case for this view.
>>>>>>>   Tabish
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb, 2023, 1:24 PM J.M. Garg, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, Tabish ji, for the feedback.
>>>>>>>> But if you see, a lot of observations here (
>>>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2011/02/07/artemisia-nilagirica/) are
>>>>>>>> from South India, where POWO
>>>>>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:60475130-2>
>>>>>>>> does not give any distribution for A.dubia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2023 at 09:24, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, this should be *Artemisia nilagirica*, which is quite a
>>>>>>>>> misidentified plant in India. The broad, toothed segments of the 
>>>>>>>>> leaves are
>>>>>>>>> a clear signature. The more common plant with narrow, untoothed leaf
>>>>>>>>> segments is *Artemisia dubia*. In fact, all the plants listed on
>>>>>>>>> the eFI page for Artemisia nilagarica
>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asteraceae/asteroideae/anthemideae/artemisia/artemisia-nilagirica>
>>>>>>>>> page should belong to *Artemisia dubia*. You can compare with the
>>>>>>>>> images of Artemisia dubia at POWO
>>>>>>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:60475130-2>
>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>    Tabish
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, June 10, 2013 at 8:08:28 PM UTC+5:30 Satish Phadke
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This *Artemisia *plant was photographed in Sinhagad valley. It
>>>>>>>>>> is commonly observed in western ghats.
>>>>>>>>>> Is it *Artemisia nilagirica*?
>>>>>>>>>> Dr Satish Phadke
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
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