Hi Dinesh, There is a slight problem here. Dr.Almeida's "Flora of Maharashtra" Vol 2 lists Cucumis melo Linn. subsp. agrestis as the new name / syn. of Cucumis trigonis. Anyway, my plants were identified as C.trigonis by Dr.Almeida. Regards, Neil.
--- On Fri, 9/24/10, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:48140] DV - 18SEP10 - 0116 :: ¿ Momordica species ? To: "Gurcharan Singh" <[email protected]> Cc: "Balkar Arya" <[email protected]>, "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>, "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> Date: Friday, September 24, 2010, 8:22 AM Gurcharan ji, The plant that is posted for ID query is different from another plant in my collection at http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Cucumis%20melo%20ssp.%20agrestis&w=91314344%40N00 (believing to be Cucumis melo ssp. agrestis). Cucumis melo ssp. agrestis is commonly known as: senat seed, small gourd, wild musk melon • Gujarati: કચરી kachari • Hindi: कचरी kachari, कचरिया kachariya • Konkani: चिबडिण chibdin • Marathi: शिंडे shinde • Nepalese: gurmi • Rajasthani: कचरी kachari My thoughts: The flower of Cucumis melo ssp. agrestis bears a distinct pale centre ... not found in the plant that is posted in this thread. The size of Cucumis melo ssp. agrestis flower is smaller than that of plant posted in this thread (by just about 5 - 6 mm). The leaf of Cucumis melo ssp. agrestis looks similar in shape to that of Cucumis sativus ... different from the plant that is posted. Regards. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: This is C. sativus, where young fruits are with small prickles. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: The fruits in C. trigonus are smooth (not spiny) with dark green lines. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: Still I don't think this to be C. trigonous, now correctly known as C. melo subsp. agrestris which has fruits not longer than 4 cm and narrower than 2.5 cm tappered at both ends. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> wrote: Oh yes indeed Neil ji. Found leaves of Cucumis sativus different from what is posted, so was a bit hesitant whether to return my query. ... many thanks for resolving the ID. Regards. On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Balkar Arya <[email protected]> wrote: I think you are right Neil Ji it is Cucumis trigonis -- Regards Dr Balkar Singh Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology Arya P G College, Panipat Haryana-132103 09416262964
