To me Neil ji's plants look like Cucumis prophetarum. I may be wrong but. Regards
Vijayasankar On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: > Thank you very much Gurcharan ji, for resolving the ID. > This cucurbitaceae family is quite close-knit ... always confuses me !!! > Will consider this plant to be *Cucumis sativus*. > > > Regards. > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Larger flowers, absence of light centre, tubercled larger fruits all point >> to C. sativus. >> >> I have photographed a lot of melons (C. melo) in California. Perhaps I >> will post them next week. There is great diversity in fruits but I have >> never known C. melo with tubercled fruits, so common in C. sativus. >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Gurcharan ji, >>> >>> The plant that is posted for ID query is different from another plant in >>> my collection at >>> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Cucumis%20melo%20ssp.%20agrestis&w=91314344%40N00(believing >>> to be >>> *Cucumis melo* ssp. *agrestis*). >>> >>> *Cucumis melo* ssp. *agrestis* is commonly known as: senat seed, small >>> gourd, wild musk melon • Gujarati: કચરી kachari • Hindi: कचरी kachari, >>> कचरिया kachariya • Konkani: चिबडिण chibdin • Marathi: शिंडे shinde • >>> Nepalese: gurmi • Rajasthani: कचरी kachari >>> >>> >>> My thoughts: >>> The flower of *Cucumis melo* ssp. *agrestis *bears a distinct pale >>> centre ... not found in the plant that is posted in this thread. >>> The size of *Cucumis melo* ssp. *agrestis *flower is smaller than that >>> of plant posted in this thread (by just about 5 - 6 mm). >>> The leaf of *Cucumis melo* ssp. *agrestis *looks similar in shape to >>> that of *Cucumis sativus* ... different from the plant that is posted. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> This is C. sativus, where young fruits are with small prickles. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Gurcharan Singh >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> The fruits in C. trigonus are smooth (not spiny) with dark green lines. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Still I don't think this to be C. trigonous, now correctly known as >>>>>> C. melo subsp. agrestris which has fruits not longer than 4 cm and >>>>>> narrower >>>>>> than 2.5 cm tappered at both ends. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Dinesh Valke < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh yes indeed Neil ji. >>>>>>> Found leaves of *Cucumis sativus* different from what is posted, so >>>>>>> was a bit hesitant whether to return my query. >>>>>>> ... many thanks for resolving the ID. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Balkar Arya >>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think you are right Neil Ji >>>>>>>> it is Cucumis trigonis >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>>>>> 09416262964 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >
