Thank you very much Gurcharan ji, for resolving the ID.
This cucurbitaceae family is quite close-knit ... always confuses me !!!
Will consider this plant to be *Cucumis sativus*.


Regards.





On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:

> Larger flowers, absence of light centre, tubercled larger fruits all point
> to C. sativus.
>
> I have photographed a lot of melons (C. melo) in California. Perhaps I will
> post them next week. There is great diversity in fruits but I have never
> known C. melo with tubercled fruits, so common in C. sativus.
>
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>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Gurcharan ji,
>>
>> The plant that is posted for ID query is different from another plant in
>> my collection at
>> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Cucumis%20melo%20ssp.%20agrestis&w=91314344%40N00(believing
>>  to be
>> *Cucumis melo* ssp. *agrestis*).
>>
>> *Cucumis melo* ssp. *agrestis* is commonly known as: senat seed, small
>> gourd, wild musk melon • Gujarati: કચરી kachari • Hindi:  कचरी kachari,
>> कचरिया kachariya • Konkani: चिबडिण chibdin • Marathi: शिंडे shinde •
>> Nepalese: gurmi • Rajasthani: कचरी kachari
>>
>>
>> My thoughts:
>> The flower of *Cucumis melo* ssp. *agrestis *bears a distinct pale centre
>> ... not found in the plant that is posted in this thread.
>> The size of *Cucumis melo* ssp. *agrestis *flower is smaller than that of
>> plant posted in this thread (by just about 5 - 6 mm).
>> The leaf of *Cucumis melo* ssp. *agrestis *looks similar in shape to that
>> of *Cucumis sativus* ... different from the plant that is posted.
>>
>>
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>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
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>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> This is C. sativus, where young fruits are with small prickles.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> The fruits in C. trigonus are smooth (not spiny) with dark green lines.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh 
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Still I don't think this to be C. trigonous,  now correctly known as C.
>>>>> melo subsp. agrestris which has fruits not longer than 4 cm and narrower
>>>>> than 2.5 cm tappered at both ends.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh yes indeed Neil ji.
>>>>>> Found leaves of *Cucumis sativus* different from what is posted, so
>>>>>> was a bit hesitant whether to return my query.
>>>>>> ... many thanks for resolving the ID.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Balkar Arya 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think you are right Neil Ji
>>>>>>> it is Cucumis trigonis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh
>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology
>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat
>>>>>>> Haryana-132103
>>>>>>> 09416262964
>>>>>>>
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