Yazdy ji I couldn't catch your opinion. You don't agree with........................my view (it is not C. prophetarum) or identification C. prophetarum given by Vijayasankar ji and supported by Parjanya ji.
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 5:58 AM, Neil Soares <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > Cucumis prophetarum is a widely cultivated plant. Mine are wild. > Regards, > Neil Soares. > > --- On *Sat, 9/25/10, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:48295] DV - 18SEP10 - 0116 :: ¿ Momordica > species ? > To: "Vijayasankar" <[email protected]> > Cc: "Dinesh Valke" <[email protected]>, "Gurcharan Singh" < > [email protected]>, "Balkar Arya" <[email protected]>, "Neil Soares" < > [email protected]>, "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, September 25, 2010, 1:29 PM > > > I do not agree, please check the link given below. The leaves are > different. > > http://www.google.co.in/search?q=Cucumis+prophetarum&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___IN364 > Regards > Yazdy. > > On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Vijayasankar > <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> > wrote: > > To me Neil ji's plants look like Cucumis prophetarum. I may be wrong but. > > > > Regards > > > > Vijayasankar > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Dinesh Valke > > <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > >> > >> Thank you very much Gurcharan ji, for resolving the ID. > >> This cucurbitaceae family is quite close-knit ... always confuses me !!! > >> Will consider this plant to be Cucumis sativus. > >> > >> > >> Regards. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Gurcharan Singh > >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Larger flowers, absence of light centre, tubercled larger fruits all > >>> point to C. sativus. > >>> I have photographed a lot of melons (C. melo) in California. Perhaps I > >>> will post them next week. There is great diversity in fruits but I have > >>> never known C. melo with tubercled fruits, so common in C. sativus. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >>> Retired Associate Professor > >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > >>> > >>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Dinesh Valke > >>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Gurcharan ji, > >>>> > >>>> The plant that is posted for ID query is different from another plant > in > >>>> my collection at > >>>> > http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Cucumis%20melo%20ssp.%20agrestis&w=91314344%40N00 > >>>> (believing to be Cucumis melo ssp. agrestis). > >>>> > >>>> Cucumis melo ssp. agrestis is commonly known as: senat seed, small > >>>> gourd, wild musk melon • Gujarati: કચરી kachari • Hindi: कचरी > kachari, > >>>> कचरिया kachariya • Konkani: चिबडिण chibdin • Marathi: शिंडे shinde • > >>>> Nepalese: gurmi • Rajasthani: कचरी kachari > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> My thoughts: > >>>> The flower of Cucumis melo ssp. agrestis bears a distinct pale centre > >>>> ... not found in the plant that is posted in this thread. > >>>> The size of Cucumis melo ssp. agrestis flower is smaller than that of > >>>> plant posted in this thread (by just about 5 - 6 mm). > >>>> The leaf of Cucumis melo ssp. agrestis looks similar in shape to that > of > >>>> Cucumis sativus ... different from the plant that is posted. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Regards. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Gurcharan Singh > >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> This is C. sativus, where young fruits are with small prickles. > >>>>> -- > >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >>>>> Retired Associate Professor > >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Gurcharan Singh < > [email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The fruits in C. trigonus are smooth (not spiny) with dark green > >>>>>> lines. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor > >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh < > [email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Still I don't think this to be C. trigonous, now correctly known > as > >>>>>>> C. melo subsp. agrestris which has fruits not longer than 4 cm and > narrower > >>>>>>> than 2.5 cm tappered at both ends. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh > >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor > >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Dinesh Valke > >>>>>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> > wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Oh yes indeed Neil ji. > >>>>>>>> Found leaves of Cucumis sativus different from what is posted, so > >>>>>>>> was a bit hesitant whether to return my query. > >>>>>>>> ... many thanks for resolving the ID. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Regards. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Balkar Arya < > [email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I think you are right Neil Ji > >>>>>>>>> it is Cucumis trigonis > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> Regards > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh > >>>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology > >>>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat > >>>>>>>>> Haryana-132103 > >>>>>>>>> 09416262964 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > > >
