Hi, Cucumis prophetarum is a widely cultivated plant. Mine are wild. Regards, Neil Soares.
--- On Sat, 9/25/10, Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> wrote: From: Yazdy Palia <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:48295] DV - 18SEP10 - 0116 :: ¿ Momordica species ? To: "Vijayasankar" <[email protected]> Cc: "Dinesh Valke" <[email protected]>, "Gurcharan Singh" <[email protected]>, "Balkar Arya" <[email protected]>, "Neil Soares" <[email protected]>, "efloraofindia" <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, September 25, 2010, 1:29 PM I do not agree, please check the link given below. The leaves are different. http://www.google.co.in/search?q=Cucumis+prophetarum&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&client=firefox-a&rlz=1R1GGGL_en___IN364 Regards Yazdy. On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Vijayasankar <[email protected]> wrote: > To me Neil ji's plants look like Cucumis prophetarum. I may be wrong but. > > Regards > > Vijayasankar > > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Thank you very much Gurcharan ji, for resolving the ID. >> This cucurbitaceae family is quite close-knit ... always confuses me !!! >> Will consider this plant to be Cucumis sativus. >> >> >> Regards. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Larger flowers, absence of light centre, tubercled larger fruits all >>> point to C. sativus. >>> I have photographed a lot of melons (C. melo) in California. Perhaps I >>> will post them next week. There is great diversity in fruits but I have >>> never known C. melo with tubercled fruits, so common in C. sativus. >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Gurcharan ji, >>>> >>>> The plant that is posted for ID query is different from another plant in >>>> my collection at >>>> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Cucumis%20melo%20ssp.%20agrestis&w=91314344%40N00 >>>> (believing to be Cucumis melo ssp. agrestis). >>>> >>>> Cucumis melo ssp. agrestis is commonly known as: senat seed, small >>>> gourd, wild musk melon • Gujarati: કચરી kachari • Hindi: कचरी kachari, >>>> कचरिया kachariya • Konkani: चिबडिण chibdin • Marathi: शिंडे shinde • >>>> Nepalese: gurmi • Rajasthani: कचरी kachari >>>> >>>> >>>> My thoughts: >>>> The flower of Cucumis melo ssp. agrestis bears a distinct pale centre >>>> ... not found in the plant that is posted in this thread. >>>> The size of Cucumis melo ssp. agrestis flower is smaller than that of >>>> plant posted in this thread (by just about 5 - 6 mm). >>>> The leaf of Cucumis melo ssp. agrestis looks similar in shape to that of >>>> Cucumis sativus ... different from the plant that is posted. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> This is C. sativus, where young fruits are with small prickles. >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The fruits in C. trigonus are smooth (not spiny) with dark green >>>>>> lines. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Still I don't think this to be C. trigonous, now correctly known as >>>>>>> C. melo subsp. agrestris which has fruits not longer than 4 cm and >>>>>>> narrower >>>>>>> than 2.5 cm tappered at both ends. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Dinesh Valke >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh yes indeed Neil ji. >>>>>>>> Found leaves of Cucumis sativus different from what is posted, so >>>>>>>> was a bit hesitant whether to return my query. >>>>>>>> ... many thanks for resolving the ID. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Balkar Arya <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think you are right Neil Ji >>>>>>>>> it is Cucumis trigonis >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>>>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>>>>>> 09416262964 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >
