Larger flowers, absence of light centre, tubercled larger fruits all point to C. sativus.
I have photographed a lot of melons (C. melo) in California. Perhaps I will post them next week. There is great diversity in fruits but I have never known C. melo with tubercled fruits, so common in C. sativus. -- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>wrote: > Gurcharan ji, > > The plant that is posted for ID query is different from another plant in my > collection at > http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=Cucumis%20melo%20ssp.%20agrestis&w=91314344%40N00(believing > to be > *Cucumis melo* ssp. *agrestis*). > > *Cucumis melo* ssp. *agrestis* is commonly known as: senat seed, small > gourd, wild musk melon • Gujarati: કચરી kachari • Hindi: कचरी kachari, > कचरिया kachariya • Konkani: चिबडिण chibdin • Marathi: शिंडे shinde • > Nepalese: gurmi • Rajasthani: कचरी kachari > > > My thoughts: > The flower of *Cucumis melo* ssp. *agrestis *bears a distinct pale centre > ... not found in the plant that is posted in this thread. > The size of *Cucumis melo* ssp. *agrestis *flower is smaller than that of > plant posted in this thread (by just about 5 - 6 mm). > The leaf of *Cucumis melo* ssp. *agrestis *looks similar in shape to that > of *Cucumis sativus* ... different from the plant that is posted. > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> This is C. sativus, where young fruits are with small prickles. >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> The fruits in C. trigonus are smooth (not spiny) with dark green lines. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Still I don't think this to be C. trigonous, now correctly known as C. >>>> melo subsp. agrestris which has fruits not longer than 4 cm and narrower >>>> than 2.5 cm tappered at both ends. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Dinesh Valke >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Oh yes indeed Neil ji. >>>>> Found leaves of *Cucumis sativus* different from what is posted, so >>>>> was a bit hesitant whether to return my query. >>>>> ... many thanks for resolving the ID. >>>>> >>>>> Regards. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Balkar Arya <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think you are right Neil Ji >>>>>> it is Cucumis trigonis >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr Balkar Singh >>>>>> Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >>>>>> Arya P G College, Panipat >>>>>> Haryana-132103 >>>>>> 09416262964 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >

