I think images at https://efloraofindia.com/2021/10/29/lecanthus-pileoides/
(from Alka ji, Sushant ji and Saroj ji), may also be of Lecanthus obtusus
(Royle) Hand.-Mazz.
<https://efloraofindia.com/2024/09/28/lecanthus-obtusus/> as Lecanthus
pileoides S.S.Chien & C.J.Chen not reported from India.

On Sat, 21 Sept 2024 at 21:15, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, the herbarium specimens agree with my understanding of Lecanthus
> obtusus. The leaf margins in this species vary from being toothed to being
> almost entire. I think Dinesh's plant agrees with this species. Prominent
> features are the small size of this plant, and the short peduncles. I am
> attaching an image of a typical Lecanthus peduncularis plant to contrast it
> with.
>    Tabish
> -------------------------------------------
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>
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 3:56 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
>> Date: Sun, 15 Sept 2024 at 12:26
>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:469564] Re: Names of Plants in India ::
>> Lecanthus peduncularis (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd.
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Cc: Tabish <[email protected]>, efloraofindia <
>> [email protected]>
>>
>>
>> Pl. check with GBIF
>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=4098241> specimens of 
>> *Lecanthus
>> obtusus* from Nilgiris (one
>> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/cache/occurrence/912572822/media/b4ab222b4c65e3b6b705317e986ffab8>
>> and two
>> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/cache/occurrence/912572806/media/a56ff93a58f4302f6307a3d6249e76ff>
>> ).
>>
>> On Sun, 8 Sept 2024 at 17:46, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Tabish, for pointing to *Lecanthus obtusus* (Royle) Hand.-Mazz.
>>> - it has very limited distribution in India - endemic to Himachal Pradesh,
>>> Jammu & Kashmir, Maharashtra, Uttarakhand.
>>> Hoping that Garg ji and other friends familiar with this genus will give
>>> their thoughts and resolve the ID.
>>> Regards.
>>> Dinesh
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 9:54 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think Dinesh's plant is *Lecanthus obtusus
>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:854358-1>, 
>>>> *which
>>>> was for long considered a synonym of L. peduncularis, but is a much
>>>> shorter, delicate herb, with short peduncles. I am attaching the original
>>>> description and drawing of Lecanthus peduncularis var. garhwalensis,
>>>> which is now a synonym of Lecanthus obtusus. On my recent visit to
>>>> Dhanaulti, I saw Lecanthus peduncularis growing in great numbers and
>>>> realized how robust a plant it is. That made me relook into the much
>>>> shorter and delicate plant we had also found earlier. Leaves of L.
>>>> peduncularis are acute to acuminate, never obtuse as seen in Dinesh's 
>>>> plant.
>>>>    Tabish
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <Unknown>
>>>> Date: Friday, September 26, 2014 at 12:00:40 PM UTC+5:30
>>>> Subject: Names of Plants in India :: Lecanthus peduncularis (Wall. ex
>>>> Royle) Wedd.
>>>> To: efloraofindia <Unknown>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> via Species
>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species>‎ > ‎L
>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/l>‎ > ‎
>>>> *Lecanthus peduncularis* (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd. ... *family*:
>>>> Urticaceae
>>>> [image: Lecanthus peduncularis (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd.]
>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F15322279445&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfR9AEAhln1vKRg9f72Wh4is_o2Bg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [image: Flowers of India]
>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FStalked%2520Dischead.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcn6NAjZE8j9iiFmEvWL-HTA7mY0g>
>>>>  [image: Discussions at efloraofindia]
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Lecanthus%20peduncularis%7Csort:date%7Cspell:true>
>>>>  [image: more views in flickr]
>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fsearch%2F%3Fq%3DLecanthuspeduncularis%26m%3Dtags%26z%3Dm&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcTKQe-NxZ-sMFNfho2ldRmMo2PDQ>
>>>>  [image: more views on Google Earth]
>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.flickr.com%2Fservices%2Ffeeds%2Fgeo%2Findia%2F%26tags%3DLecanthuspeduncularis%26format%3Dkml_nl&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzd3RVWamjd_prlU-xqwO-M5lu32pg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ¿ *lay-KAN-thuss* ? -- Greek: *lekane* (dish, pot), *anthos*
>>>>  (flower)... Wikipedia
>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FList_of_Greek_and_Latin_roots_in_English&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcqSwVYU9VneBorROXg7PDaUHWlpA>
>>>> *pee-dun-kew-LAIR-iss* -- stalked ... Dave's Botanary
>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dpeduncularis&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzf8IyppgOlPvXOAd2SjDR445BlS-A>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *commonly known as*: stalked dischead
>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/stalked-dischead>
>>>>  • *Nepali*: गकालेती gakaleti
>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/gakaleti-gakaleti>
>>>> , गांठेगोलिया ganthe golia
>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/ganthegoliya-ganthe-golia>
>>>> , खोले झार khole jhar
>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/khole-jhara-khole-jhar>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *botanical names*: *Lecanthus peduncularis* (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd. ...
>>>> *synonyms*: *Lecanthus wallichii* Wedd. • *Lecanthus wightii* Wedd. • 
>>>> *Procris
>>>> obtusa* Royle • *Procris peduncularis* Wall. ex Royle ... *The Plant
>>>> List* (2013). Version 1.1.
>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theplantlist.org%2Ftpl1.1%2Frecord%2Ftro-50064219&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdWQ3yfhh6nAuduTyQ7oDZqzw87pQ>
>>>>
>>>>
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