Garg ji, I agree with you on this. Sushant and Saroj's plants agree very well. Alka ji's plant does appear to be a bit different, but I think Lecanthus obtusus is the closest match with the right distribution. Tabish ------------------------------------------- <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net The waterhole of flower lovers
On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 5:15 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > I think images at > https://efloraofindia.com/2021/10/29/lecanthus-pileoides/ (from Alka ji, > Sushant ji and Saroj ji), may also be of Lecanthus obtusus (Royle) > Hand.-Mazz. <https://efloraofindia.com/2024/09/28/lecanthus-obtusus/> > as Lecanthus pileoides S.S.Chien & C.J.Chen not reported from India. > > On Sat, 21 Sept 2024 at 21:15, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, the herbarium specimens agree with my understanding of Lecanthus >> obtusus. The leaf margins in this species vary from being toothed to being >> almost entire. I think Dinesh's plant agrees with this species. Prominent >> features are the small size of this plant, and the short peduncles. I am >> attaching an image of a typical Lecanthus peduncularis plant to contrast it >> with. >> Tabish >> ------------------------------------------- >> www.flowersofindia.net >> The waterhole of flower lovers >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 3:56 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>> Date: Sun, 15 Sept 2024 at 12:26 >>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:469564] Re: Names of Plants in India :: >>> Lecanthus peduncularis (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd. >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Cc: Tabish <[email protected]>, efloraofindia < >>> [email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Pl. check with GBIF >>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=4098241> specimens >>> of *Lecanthus obtusus* from Nilgiris (one >>> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/cache/occurrence/912572822/media/b4ab222b4c65e3b6b705317e986ffab8> >>> and two >>> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/cache/occurrence/912572806/media/a56ff93a58f4302f6307a3d6249e76ff> >>> ). >>> >>> On Sun, 8 Sept 2024 at 17:46, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Tabish, for pointing to *Lecanthus obtusus* (Royle) Hand.-Mazz. >>>> - it has very limited distribution in India - endemic to Himachal Pradesh, >>>> Jammu & Kashmir, Maharashtra, Uttarakhand. >>>> Hoping that Garg ji and other friends familiar with this genus will >>>> give their thoughts and resolve the ID. >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 9:54 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think Dinesh's plant is *Lecanthus obtusus >>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:854358-1>, >>>>> *which >>>>> was for long considered a synonym of L. peduncularis, but is a much >>>>> shorter, delicate herb, with short peduncles. I am attaching the original >>>>> description and drawing of Lecanthus peduncularis var. garhwalensis, >>>>> which is now a synonym of Lecanthus obtusus. On my recent visit to >>>>> Dhanaulti, I saw Lecanthus peduncularis growing in great numbers and >>>>> realized how robust a plant it is. That made me relook into the much >>>>> shorter and delicate plant we had also found earlier. Leaves of L. >>>>> peduncularis are acute to acuminate, never obtuse as seen in Dinesh's >>>>> plant. >>>>> Tabish >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <Unknown> >>>>> Date: Friday, September 26, 2014 at 12:00:40 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>> Subject: Names of Plants in India :: Lecanthus peduncularis (Wall. ex >>>>> Royle) Wedd. >>>>> To: efloraofindia <Unknown> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> via Species >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species> > L >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/l> > >>>>> *Lecanthus peduncularis* (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd. ... *family*: >>>>> Urticaceae >>>>> [image: Lecanthus peduncularis (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd.] >>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F15322279445&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfR9AEAhln1vKRg9f72Wh4is_o2Bg> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [image: Flowers of India] >>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FStalked%2520Dischead.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcn6NAjZE8j9iiFmEvWL-HTA7mY0g> >>>>> [image: Discussions at efloraofindia] >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Lecanthus%20peduncularis%7Csort:date%7Cspell:true> >>>>> [image: more views in flickr] >>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fsearch%2F%3Fq%3DLecanthuspeduncularis%26m%3Dtags%26z%3Dm&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcTKQe-NxZ-sMFNfho2ldRmMo2PDQ> >>>>> [image: more views on Google Earth] >>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.flickr.com%2Fservices%2Ffeeds%2Fgeo%2Findia%2F%26tags%3DLecanthuspeduncularis%26format%3Dkml_nl&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzd3RVWamjd_prlU-xqwO-M5lu32pg> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ¿ *lay-KAN-thuss* ? -- Greek: *lekane* (dish, pot), *anthos* >>>>> (flower)... Wikipedia >>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FList_of_Greek_and_Latin_roots_in_English&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcqSwVYU9VneBorROXg7PDaUHWlpA> >>>>> *pee-dun-kew-LAIR-iss* -- stalked ... Dave's Botanary >>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dpeduncularis&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzf8IyppgOlPvXOAd2SjDR445BlS-A> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *commonly known as*: stalked dischead >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/stalked-dischead> >>>>> • *Nepali*: गकालेती gakaleti >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/gakaleti-gakaleti> >>>>> , गांठेगोलिया ganthe golia >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/ganthegoliya-ganthe-golia> >>>>> , खोले झार khole jhar >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/khole-jhara-khole-jhar> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *botanical names*: *Lecanthus peduncularis* (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd. >>>>> ... *synonyms*: *Lecanthus wallichii* Wedd. • *Lecanthus wightii* Wedd. >>>>> • *Procris obtusa* Royle • *Procris peduncularis* Wall. ex Royle ... *The >>>>> Plant List* (2013). Version 1.1. >>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theplantlist.org%2Ftpl1.1%2Frecord%2Ftro-50064219&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdWQ3yfhh6nAuduTyQ7oDZqzw87pQ> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC00U6aKgKA1u50rcZQ8GcxA35%2Bzu8J78-P_dUuNJcJ%2BCg%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC00U6aKgKA1u50rcZQ8GcxA35%2Bzu8J78-P_dUuNJcJ%2BCg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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