Dear Tabish, So we take these two as different sps. ??
Thank you. Saroj Kasaju On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 9:58 AM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: > Garg ji, > I agree with you on this. Sushant and Saroj's plants agree very well. > Alka ji's plant does appear to be a bit different, but I think Lecanthus > obtusus is the closest match with the right distribution. > Tabish > ------------------------------------------- > <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net > The waterhole of flower lovers > > > On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 5:15 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think images at >> https://efloraofindia.com/2021/10/29/lecanthus-pileoides/ (from Alka ji, >> Sushant ji and Saroj ji), may also be of Lecanthus obtusus (Royle) >> Hand.-Mazz. <https://efloraofindia.com/2024/09/28/lecanthus-obtusus/> >> as Lecanthus pileoides S.S.Chien & C.J.Chen not reported from India. >> >> On Sat, 21 Sept 2024 at 21:15, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes, the herbarium specimens agree with my understanding of Lecanthus >>> obtusus. The leaf margins in this species vary from being toothed to being >>> almost entire. I think Dinesh's plant agrees with this species. Prominent >>> features are the small size of this plant, and the short peduncles. I am >>> attaching an image of a typical Lecanthus peduncularis plant to contrast it >>> with. >>> Tabish >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> www.flowersofindia.net >>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 3:56 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>> Date: Sun, 15 Sept 2024 at 12:26 >>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:469564] Re: Names of Plants in India :: >>>> Lecanthus peduncularis (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd. >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Cc: Tabish <[email protected]>, efloraofindia < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> Pl. check with GBIF >>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=4098241> specimens >>>> of *Lecanthus obtusus* from Nilgiris (one >>>> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/cache/occurrence/912572822/media/b4ab222b4c65e3b6b705317e986ffab8> >>>> and two >>>> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/cache/occurrence/912572806/media/a56ff93a58f4302f6307a3d6249e76ff> >>>> ). >>>> >>>> On Sun, 8 Sept 2024 at 17:46, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Tabish, for pointing to *Lecanthus obtusus* (Royle) >>>>> Hand.-Mazz. - it has very limited distribution in India - endemic to >>>>> Himachal Pradesh, Jammu & Kashmir, Maharashtra, Uttarakhand. >>>>> Hoping that Garg ji and other friends familiar with this genus will >>>>> give their thoughts and resolve the ID. >>>>> Regards. >>>>> Dinesh >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 9:54 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think Dinesh's plant is *Lecanthus obtusus >>>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:854358-1>, >>>>>> *which >>>>>> was for long considered a synonym of L. peduncularis, but is a much >>>>>> shorter, delicate herb, with short peduncles. I am attaching the original >>>>>> description and drawing of Lecanthus peduncularis var. garhwalensis, >>>>>> which is now a synonym of Lecanthus obtusus. On my recent visit to >>>>>> Dhanaulti, I saw Lecanthus peduncularis growing in great numbers and >>>>>> realized how robust a plant it is. That made me relook into the much >>>>>> shorter and delicate plant we had also found earlier. Leaves of L. >>>>>> peduncularis are acute to acuminate, never obtuse as seen in Dinesh's >>>>>> plant. >>>>>> Tabish >>>>>> >>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <Unknown> >>>>>> Date: Friday, September 26, 2014 at 12:00:40 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>>> Subject: Names of Plants in India :: Lecanthus peduncularis (Wall. ex >>>>>> Royle) Wedd. >>>>>> To: efloraofindia <Unknown> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> via Species >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species> > L >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/l> > >>>>>> >>>>>> *Lecanthus peduncularis* (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd. ... *family*: >>>>>> Urticaceae >>>>>> [image: Lecanthus peduncularis (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd.] >>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F15322279445&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfR9AEAhln1vKRg9f72Wh4is_o2Bg> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: Flowers of India] >>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FStalked%2520Dischead.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcn6NAjZE8j9iiFmEvWL-HTA7mY0g> >>>>>> [image: Discussions at efloraofindia] >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Lecanthus%20peduncularis%7Csort:date%7Cspell:true> >>>>>> [image: more views in flickr] >>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fsearch%2F%3Fq%3DLecanthuspeduncularis%26m%3Dtags%26z%3Dm&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcTKQe-NxZ-sMFNfho2ldRmMo2PDQ> >>>>>> [image: more views on Google Earth] >>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.flickr.com%2Fservices%2Ffeeds%2Fgeo%2Findia%2F%26tags%3DLecanthuspeduncularis%26format%3Dkml_nl&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzd3RVWamjd_prlU-xqwO-M5lu32pg> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ¿ *lay-KAN-thuss* ? -- Greek: *lekane* (dish, pot), *anthos* >>>>>> (flower)... Wikipedia >>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FList_of_Greek_and_Latin_roots_in_English&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcqSwVYU9VneBorROXg7PDaUHWlpA> >>>>>> *pee-dun-kew-LAIR-iss* -- stalked ... Dave's Botanary >>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dpeduncularis&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzf8IyppgOlPvXOAd2SjDR445BlS-A> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *commonly known as*: stalked dischead >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/stalked-dischead> >>>>>> • *Nepali*: गकालेती gakaleti >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/gakaleti-gakaleti> >>>>>> , गांठेगोलिया ganthe golia >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/ganthegoliya-ganthe-golia> >>>>>> , खोले झार khole jhar >>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/khole-jhara-khole-jhar> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *botanical names*: *Lecanthus peduncularis* (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd. >>>>>> ... *synonyms*: *Lecanthus wallichii* Wedd. • *Lecanthus wightii* Wedd. >>>>>> • *Procris obtusa* Royle • *Procris peduncularis* Wall. ex Royle ... *The >>>>>> Plant List* (2013). Version 1.1. >>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theplantlist.org%2Ftpl1.1%2Frecord%2Ftro-50064219&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdWQ3yfhh6nAuduTyQ7oDZqzw87pQ> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC00U6aKgKA1u50rcZQ8GcxA35%2Bzu8J78-P_dUuNJcJ%2BCg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC00U6aKgKA1u50rcZQ8GcxA35%2Bzu8J78-P_dUuNJcJ%2BCg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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