Thanks Tabish and Garg ji. I will correct my notes. Regards. Dinesh On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 9:45 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks a lot, Tabish ji, for resolving this issue. > > On Sun, 29 Sept 2024 at 09:43, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Garg ji, >> I agree with you on this. Sushant and Saroj's plants agree very well. >> Alka ji's plant does appear to be a bit different, but I think Lecanthus >> obtusus is the closest match with the right distribution. >> Tabish >> ------------------------------------------- >> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >> The waterhole of flower lovers >> >> >> On Sat, Sep 28, 2024 at 5:15 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think images at >>> https://efloraofindia.com/2021/10/29/lecanthus-pileoides/ (from Alka >>> ji, Sushant ji and Saroj ji), may also be of Lecanthus obtusus (Royle) >>> Hand.-Mazz. <https://efloraofindia.com/2024/09/28/lecanthus-obtusus/> >>> as Lecanthus pileoides S.S.Chien & C.J.Chen not reported from India. >>> >>> On Sat, 21 Sept 2024 at 21:15, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, the herbarium specimens agree with my understanding of Lecanthus >>>> obtusus. The leaf margins in this species vary from being toothed to being >>>> almost entire. I think Dinesh's plant agrees with this species. Prominent >>>> features are the small size of this plant, and the short peduncles. I am >>>> attaching an image of a typical Lecanthus peduncularis plant to contrast it >>>> with. >>>> Tabish >>>> ------------------------------------------- >>>> www.flowersofindia.net >>>> The waterhole of flower lovers >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2024 at 3:56 PM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>> From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: Sun, 15 Sept 2024 at 12:26 >>>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:469564] Re: Names of Plants in India :: >>>>> Lecanthus peduncularis (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd. >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Cc: Tabish <[email protected]>, efloraofindia < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pl. check with GBIF >>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/gallery?taxon_key=4098241> specimens >>>>> of *Lecanthus obtusus* from Nilgiris (one >>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/cache/occurrence/912572822/media/b4ab222b4c65e3b6b705317e986ffab8> >>>>> and two >>>>> <https://www.gbif.org/tools/zoom/simple.html?src=//api.gbif.org/v1/image/cache/occurrence/912572806/media/a56ff93a58f4302f6307a3d6249e76ff> >>>>> ). >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, 8 Sept 2024 at 17:46, Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Tabish, for pointing to *Lecanthus obtusus* (Royle) >>>>>> Hand.-Mazz. - it has very limited distribution in India - endemic to >>>>>> Himachal Pradesh, Jammu & Kashmir, Maharashtra, Uttarakhand. >>>>>> Hoping that Garg ji and other friends familiar with this genus will >>>>>> give their thoughts and resolve the ID. >>>>>> Regards. >>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2024 at 9:54 PM Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think Dinesh's plant is *Lecanthus obtusus >>>>>>> <https://powo.science.kew.org/taxon/urn:lsid:ipni.org:names:854358-1>, >>>>>>> *which >>>>>>> was for long considered a synonym of L. peduncularis, but is a much >>>>>>> shorter, delicate herb, with short peduncles. I am attaching the >>>>>>> original >>>>>>> description and drawing of Lecanthus peduncularis var. >>>>>>> garhwalensis, which is now a synonym of Lecanthus obtusus. On my recent >>>>>>> visit to Dhanaulti, I saw Lecanthus peduncularis growing in great >>>>>>> numbers >>>>>>> and realized how robust a plant it is. That made me relook into the much >>>>>>> shorter and delicate plant we had also found earlier. Leaves of L. >>>>>>> peduncularis are acute to acuminate, never obtuse as seen in Dinesh's >>>>>>> plant. >>>>>>> Tabish >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>> From: Dinesh Valke <Unknown> >>>>>>> Date: Friday, September 26, 2014 at 12:00:40 PM UTC+5:30 >>>>>>> Subject: Names of Plants in India :: Lecanthus peduncularis (Wall. >>>>>>> ex Royle) Wedd. >>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <Unknown> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> via Species >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species> > >>>>>>> L <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-species/l> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> *Lecanthus peduncularis* (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd. ... *family*: >>>>>>> Urticaceae >>>>>>> [image: Lecanthus peduncularis (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd.] >>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F15322279445&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfR9AEAhln1vKRg9f72Wh4is_o2Bg> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [image: Flowers of India] >>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FStalked%2520Dischead.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcn6NAjZE8j9iiFmEvWL-HTA7mY0g> >>>>>>> [image: Discussions at efloraofindia] >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topicsearchin/indiantreepix/Lecanthus%20peduncularis%7Csort:date%7Cspell:true> >>>>>>> [image: more views in flickr] >>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fsearch%2F%3Fq%3DLecanthuspeduncularis%26m%3Dtags%26z%3Dm&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcTKQe-NxZ-sMFNfho2ldRmMo2PDQ> >>>>>>> [image: more views on Google Earth] >>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fapi.flickr.com%2Fservices%2Ffeeds%2Fgeo%2Findia%2F%26tags%3DLecanthuspeduncularis%26format%3Dkml_nl&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzd3RVWamjd_prlU-xqwO-M5lu32pg> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ¿ *lay-KAN-thuss* ? -- Greek: *lekane* (dish, pot), *anthos* >>>>>>> (flower)... Wikipedia >>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FList_of_Greek_and_Latin_roots_in_English&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcqSwVYU9VneBorROXg7PDaUHWlpA> >>>>>>> *pee-dun-kew-LAIR-iss* -- stalked ... Dave's Botanary >>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dpeduncularis&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzf8IyppgOlPvXOAd2SjDR445BlS-A> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *commonly known as*: stalked dischead >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/english/stalked-dischead> >>>>>>> • *Nepali*: गकालेती gakaleti >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/gakaleti-gakaleti> >>>>>>> , गांठेगोलिया ganthe golia >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/ganthegoliya-ganthe-golia> >>>>>>> , खोले झार khole jhar >>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/indiannamesofplants/via-names/nepali/khole-jhara-khole-jhar> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *botanical names*: *Lecanthus peduncularis* (Wall. ex Royle) Wedd. >>>>>>> ... *synonyms*: *Lecanthus wallichii* Wedd. • *Lecanthus wightii* Wedd. >>>>>>> • *Procris obtusa* Royle • *Procris peduncularis* Wall. ex Royle >>>>>>> ... *The Plant List* (2013). Version 1.1. >>>>>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theplantlist.org%2Ftpl1.1%2Frecord%2Ftro-50064219&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdWQ3yfhh6nAuduTyQ7oDZqzw87pQ> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC00U6aKgKA1u50rcZQ8GcxA35%2Bzu8J78-P_dUuNJcJ%2BCg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CABSQqC00U6aKgKA1u50rcZQ8GcxA35%2Bzu8J78-P_dUuNJcJ%2BCg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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