Sirji i never said that genus Adhatoda was conserved against Justicia L., Just i said its a conserved name and type is Adhatoda vasica Nees, which later also called as Adhatoda zeylanica... now correct name may be Justicia or Adhatoda did not bother to me...
its really hard to follow others... in many cases they split the genus on very minute characters, and in some of the Genus they just believe in merging the things.... eg. in Acanthaceae, Genus like Carvia, Strobilanthus, Nilgrianthes, Thelepaepale, Mackenzia, etc etc.. are been merged.. some follow them and some do not.. In case of Sterculia previous month we saw Sterculia urens was seperated from the genus... and same in the case of Euphorbias and Cassias... regards, On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:29 AM, ushadi Micromini < [email protected]> wrote: > Gurcharanji: thank you now I know at least part of the reason for all the > confusing names of some common things... like the tomato.. > AND HS'S CRYPTIC SENTENCE ABOVE, IT DID NOT MAKE ANY SENSE LAST NITE.... > > A few years ago I had started on the various trees that had leaves that > look like neem, had word...letters neem in its name... or Azardi* somewhere > in the name... after awhile... it got to be too too confusing and I gave up > ... > now I think I'll resurrect that folder (from my 286 machine, 3 generation > ago and see if my new programs can still get it/reformat it... AND START > ASKING QUESTIONS. > > I think the confusion was perhaps based on this merging and conserving > business.... > > > ========== > FOR A SUBJECT LIKE THIS I WISH I WERE NEAR DELHI SOMEWHERE AND YOU WERE > STANDING BY THE CHALKBOARD AND EXPLAINING THIS "CONSERVING" STUFF... > ALAS THERE ARE NO ADULT EDUCATION CLASSES HERE IN SUCH SUBJECTS AS BOTANY > .... LIKE THEY HAVE IN USA... > > USHA DI > > ======== > > > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Sorry for sending incomplete message. My keyboard is erratic. >> >> Genus names Adhatoda is not conserved against Justicia. The importance of >> a conserved name ceases when it is merged into another genus. Adhatoda >> Adans. and Adahatoda Mill. are merged with Justicia L. The case is somewhat >> similar (though not exactly) to Lycopersicon esculentum Mill. which was >> conserved against Lycopersicon lycopersicum, but no longer nomina >> conservanda as genus Lycopersicon is merged with Solanum, and tomato is now >> Solanum lycopersicum. >> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Sorry for sending incomplete message. My keyboard is erratic. >>> >>> Genus names Adhatoda is not conserved against Justicia. The importance of >>> a conserved name ceases when it is merged into another genus. Adhatoda >>> Adans. and Adahatoda >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Genus names Adhatoda is not conserved against Justicia. The importance >>>> of a conserved name ceases when it is merged into another genus. Adhatoda >>>> Adn >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 4:31 AM, ushadi Micromini < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Na bha...the song line sounds interesting..... but can you translate >>>>> the marathi words for me? thanks >>>>> usha di >>>>> ====== >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Na Bha <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Interesting discussion. >>>>>> But the flowers must be having nektar. Because I remember my mother >>>>>> singing: अडूलश्याची फुले देठांत थेंब गोड. can't remember how it goes >>>>>> further. >>>>>> Madhuri (pejaver) ji, help is needed!! >>>>>> Thanks Bhagyashri ji for sharing the fotos. >>>>>> Nalini >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 22.10.2011 19:39, schrieb Madhuri Raut: >>>>>> >>>>>> Yes Ushadi I remember my grandmother giving us Kadha of Adulsa leaves >>>>>> for cough. Thank you for the information >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Bhagyashri >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Ushadi micromini < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Leaves are attractive because they are always that nice deep green... >>>>>>> like a faithful husband/wife who is always cheerful... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> seriously though... a great medicine for cough, colds and bronchial >>>>>>> asthma... >>>>>>> the british east India co physicians learnt it from local Kavirajs in >>>>>>> Bengal and Made up the patent medicine Glycodin Terp-Vasaka and made >>>>>>> millions of POUNDS sterling from the Indian Market.... >>>>>>> Its available I believe even now... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> but many of the other bronchial dilators and decongestants in the >>>>>>> market still use Adhatoda extracts as a base with additions of >>>>>>> Antihistaminics added for a double dose whammy... like a hammer to >>>>>>> open a peanut... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>> ======== >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 22, 9:06 pm, Madhuri Raut <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> > Thank you Nidhan ji, Dinesh ji and Hemsan ji. Dinesh ji Thank you >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> > providing so many common names. I liked the name Sinha Parni. There >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> > something attractive of the foliage of this plant I cannot say >>>>>>> exactly >>>>>>> > what. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Regards >>>>>>> > Bhagyashri >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:49 PM, H S <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> > > its tricky here, even name i mean Genus Adhatoda is conserved.. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > regards, >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > 2011/10/22 Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >> ... yes, *Justicia adhatoda* L. (syn. *Adhatoda vasica* Nees) >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >> *commonly known as*: Malabar nut, white vasa, yellow vasa • >>>>>>> *Assamese*: >>>>>>> > >> বগা বাহক boga bahok • *Bengali*: বাসক basak • *Gujarati*: અરડૂસી >>>>>>> aradusi, >>>>>>> > >> અરડૂસો araduso • *Hindi*: अरुस arus, अड़ूसा arusa, प्रामाद्य >>>>>>> pramadya, रूस >>>>>>> > >> rus, सिंहपर्णी sinh-parni, वाजिनी vajini, विसौटा visauta • >>>>>>> *Kannada*: >>>>>>> > >> ಅಡುಸೋಗೆ adusoge • *Kashmiri*: बहिकथ् bahikath, बाँस bansa, वास >>>>>>> wasa • * >>>>>>> > >> Konkani*: अडूलशा adulasha, अडुलसो adulso, अडुसोगे adusoge • >>>>>>> *Malayalam*: >>>>>>> > >> ആടലോടകം aatalootakam • *Manipuri*: nongmangkha angouba • >>>>>>> *Marathi*: >>>>>>> > >> अडुळसा adulasa • *Mizo*: kâwl-dai • *Nepalese*: असुरो asuro, >>>>>>> कालो भासक >>>>>>> > >> kalo bhasaka • *Oriya*: basango, vrysha • *Sanskrit*: अटरुष >>>>>>> atarusa, >>>>>>> > >> प्रामाद्य pra-madya, सिंहास्या simhasya, वाजिदंत vaji-danta, >>>>>>> वाजिन् vajin, >>>>>>> > >> वासका vasaka, वसुक vasuka, वृषा vrsa • *Tamil*: ஆசலை acalai, >>>>>>> ஆடாதோடை >>>>>>> > >> atatotai, ஆட்டுசம் attucam, சிம்மமுகி cimma-muki, சிங்கம் >>>>>>> cinkam, சுவாது >>>>>>> > >> cuvatu, இரத்தபித்தம் iratta-pittam, காட்டுமுருங்கை >>>>>>> kattu-murunkai, பாவட்டை >>>>>>> > >> pavattai, வாசை vacai, வாசாதி vacati, வைத்தியமாதா vaittiya-mata >>>>>>> • *Telugu*: >>>>>>> > >> అడ్డసరము addasaramu >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >> Regards. >>>>>>> > >> Dinesh >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Nidhan Singh < >>>>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> Hi, >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> Yes, this is Adhatoda vasica, Acanthaceae >>>>>>> > >>> -- >>>>>>> > >>> Regards, >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> Dr. Nidhan Singh >>>>>>> > >>> Department of Botany >>>>>>> > >>> I.B. (PG) College >>>>>>> > >>> Panipat-132103 Haryana >>>>>>> > >>> Ph.: 09416371227 >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > -- >>>>>>> > > - H.S. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > > A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere >>>>>>> heart of >>>>>>> > > stone >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >> >> >> > -- - H.S. A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of stone
