Thanks , Very interesting ... phases of a flower? in the same flower do you think?
usha di ================= On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:06 AM, H S <[email protected]> wrote: > Sirji i never said that genus Adhatoda was conserved against Justicia L., > Just i said its a conserved name and type is Adhatoda vasica Nees, which > later also called as Adhatoda zeylanica... now correct name may be Justicia > or Adhatoda did not bother to me... > > its really hard to follow others... in many cases they split the genus on > very minute characters, and in some of the Genus they just believe in > merging the things.... > > eg. in Acanthaceae, Genus like Carvia, Strobilanthus, Nilgrianthes, > Thelepaepale, Mackenzia, etc etc.. are been merged.. some follow them and > some do not.. > > In case of Sterculia previous month we saw Sterculia urens was seperated > from the genus... and same in the case of Euphorbias and Cassias... > > > regards, > > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:29 AM, ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Gurcharanji: thank you now I know at least part of the reason for all the >> confusing names of some common things... like the tomato.. >> AND HS'S CRYPTIC SENTENCE ABOVE, IT DID NOT MAKE ANY SENSE LAST NITE.... >> >> A few years ago I had started on the various trees that had leaves that >> look like neem, had word...letters neem in its name... or Azardi* somewhere >> in the name... after awhile... it got to be too too confusing and I gave up >> ... >> now I think I'll resurrect that folder (from my 286 machine, 3 generation >> ago and see if my new programs can still get it/reformat it... AND START >> ASKING QUESTIONS. >> >> I think the confusion was perhaps based on this merging and conserving >> business.... >> >> >> ========== >> FOR A SUBJECT LIKE THIS I WISH I WERE NEAR DELHI SOMEWHERE AND YOU WERE >> STANDING BY THE CHALKBOARD AND EXPLAINING THIS "CONSERVING" STUFF... >> ALAS THERE ARE NO ADULT EDUCATION CLASSES HERE IN SUCH SUBJECTS AS BOTANY >> .... LIKE THEY HAVE IN USA... >> >> USHA DI >> >> ======== >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Sorry for sending incomplete message. My keyboard is erratic. >>> >>> Genus names Adhatoda is not conserved against Justicia. The importance of >>> a conserved name ceases when it is merged into another genus. Adhatoda >>> Adans. and Adahatoda Mill. are merged with Justicia L. The case is somewhat >>> similar (though not exactly) to Lycopersicon esculentum Mill. which was >>> conserved against Lycopersicon lycopersicum, but no longer nomina >>> conservanda as genus Lycopersicon is merged with Solanum, and tomato is now >>> Solanum lycopersicum. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Sorry for sending incomplete message. My keyboard is erratic. >>>> >>>> Genus names Adhatoda is not conserved against Justicia. The importance >>>> of a conserved name ceases when it is merged into another genus. Adhatoda >>>> Adans. and Adahatoda >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Genus names Adhatoda is not conserved against Justicia. The importance >>>>> of a conserved name ceases when it is merged into another genus. Adhatoda >>>>> Adn >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 4:31 AM, ushadi Micromini < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Na bha...the song line sounds interesting..... but can you translate >>>>>> the marathi words for me? thanks >>>>>> usha di >>>>>> ====== >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Na Bha <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Interesting discussion. >>>>>>> But the flowers must be having nektar. Because I remember my mother >>>>>>> singing: अडूलश्याची फुले देठांत थेंब गोड. can't remember how it goes >>>>>>> further. >>>>>>> Madhuri (pejaver) ji, help is needed!! >>>>>>> Thanks Bhagyashri ji for sharing the fotos. >>>>>>> Nalini >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 22.10.2011 19:39, schrieb Madhuri Raut: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes Ushadi I remember my grandmother giving us Kadha of Adulsa leaves >>>>>>> for cough. Thank you for the information >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Bhagyashri >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Ushadi micromini < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Leaves are attractive because they are always that nice deep >>>>>>>> green... >>>>>>>> like a faithful husband/wife who is always cheerful... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> seriously though... a great medicine for cough, colds and bronchial >>>>>>>> asthma... >>>>>>>> the british east India co physicians learnt it from local Kavirajs >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> Bengal and Made up the patent medicine Glycodin Terp-Vasaka and made >>>>>>>> millions of POUNDS sterling from the Indian Market.... >>>>>>>> Its available I believe even now... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but many of the other bronchial dilators and decongestants in the >>>>>>>> market still use Adhatoda extracts as a base with additions of >>>>>>>> Antihistaminics added for a double dose whammy... like a hammer to >>>>>>>> open a peanut... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>> ======== >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 22, 9:06 pm, Madhuri Raut <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> > Thank you Nidhan ji, Dinesh ji and Hemsan ji. Dinesh ji Thank you >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> > providing so many common names. I liked the name Sinha Parni. >>>>>>>> There is >>>>>>>> > something attractive of the foliage of this plant I cannot say >>>>>>>> exactly >>>>>>>> > what. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > Regards >>>>>>>> > Bhagyashri >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 7:49 PM, H S <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> > > its tricky here, even name i mean Genus Adhatoda is conserved.. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > regards, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > 2011/10/22 Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> ... yes, *Justicia adhatoda* L. (syn. *Adhatoda vasica* Nees) >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> *commonly known as*: Malabar nut, white vasa, yellow vasa • >>>>>>>> *Assamese*: >>>>>>>> > >> বগা বাহক boga bahok • *Bengali*: বাসক basak • *Gujarati*: >>>>>>>> અરડૂસી aradusi, >>>>>>>> > >> અરડૂસો araduso • *Hindi*: अरुस arus, अड़ूसा arusa, प्रामाद्य >>>>>>>> pramadya, रूस >>>>>>>> > >> rus, सिंहपर्णी sinh-parni, वाजिनी vajini, विसौटा visauta • >>>>>>>> *Kannada*: >>>>>>>> > >> ಅಡುಸೋಗೆ adusoge • *Kashmiri*: बहिकथ् bahikath, बाँस bansa, वास >>>>>>>> wasa • * >>>>>>>> > >> Konkani*: अडूलशा adulasha, अडुलसो adulso, अडुसोगे adusoge • >>>>>>>> *Malayalam*: >>>>>>>> > >> ആടലോടകം aatalootakam • *Manipuri*: nongmangkha angouba • >>>>>>>> *Marathi*: >>>>>>>> > >> अडुळसा adulasa • *Mizo*: kâwl-dai • *Nepalese*: असुरो asuro, >>>>>>>> कालो भासक >>>>>>>> > >> kalo bhasaka • *Oriya*: basango, vrysha • *Sanskrit*: अटरुष >>>>>>>> atarusa, >>>>>>>> > >> प्रामाद्य pra-madya, सिंहास्या simhasya, वाजिदंत vaji-danta, >>>>>>>> वाजिन् vajin, >>>>>>>> > >> वासका vasaka, वसुक vasuka, वृषा vrsa • *Tamil*: ஆசலை acalai, >>>>>>>> ஆடாதோடை >>>>>>>> > >> atatotai, ஆட்டுசம் attucam, சிம்மமுகி cimma-muki, சிங்கம் >>>>>>>> cinkam, சுவாது >>>>>>>> > >> cuvatu, இரத்தபித்தம் iratta-pittam, காட்டுமுருங்கை >>>>>>>> kattu-murunkai, பாவட்டை >>>>>>>> > >> pavattai, வாசை vacai, வாசாதி vacati, வைத்தியமாதா vaittiya-mata >>>>>>>> • *Telugu*: >>>>>>>> > >> అడ్డసరము addasaramu >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> Regards. >>>>>>>> > >> Dinesh >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >> On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Nidhan Singh < >>>>>>>> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>> Hi, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>> Yes, this is Adhatoda vasica, Acanthaceae >>>>>>>> > >>> -- >>>>>>>> > >>> Regards, >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>> Dr. Nidhan Singh >>>>>>>> > >>> Department of Botany >>>>>>>> > >>> I.B. (PG) College >>>>>>>> > >>> Panipat-132103 Haryana >>>>>>>> > >>> Ph.: 09416371227 >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > -- >>>>>>>> > > - H.S. >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > > A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a >>>>>>>> mere heart of >>>>>>>> > > stone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > - H.S. > > A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere heart of > stone > >
