Thanks a lot Vijayasankar ji
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Vijayasankar <[email protected]>wrote: > Gurcharan ji, I find no problem with the existing title. Even in anatomy, > we still see the micro-morphology through a SEM. Since the specimen for SEM > is COMPLETELY DRY, it is not possible to view the cell components such as > cytoplasm, vacuole, golgi bodies, etc etc. But this is possible in TEM. > Though we take sections and view using a SEM, it gives us only the surface > details of the sample, so the term 'micromorphology' still suits for SEM. > > This link may be useful: > http://www.vcbio.science.ru.nl/en/image-gallery/electron/ > > > Regards > > Vijayasankar Raman > National Center for Natural Products Research > University of Mississippi > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 11:04 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > >> ULTRA-MICROMORPHOLOGY :) >> >> Pankaj >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Thanks Vijayasankar ji and Pankaj ji for these papers. >> > I have just given final approval to 3rd Indian edition "Plant >> Systematics, >> > Theory and Practice" due in January 2012 in which I have managed to >> > incorporate three major changes of 18th IBC (changing name from ICBN to >> ICN, >> > allowing English description or diagnosis for Valid publication and >> allowing >> > online publication for Effective publication; in addition to single >> name for >> > each Fungus (no separate form genera) and fossils), as also >> incorporating >> > Takhtajan (2009) and APG III classifications (which I could not do in >> 3rd >> > International Edition "Plant Systematics, An Integrated Approach, which >> had >> > gone out from me in September 2009, and published in January 2010). >> Wish I >> > had this information (courtesy Ushadi, Pankaj ji and Vijayasankar ji) >> > earlier to incorporate in my chapter on Ultrastructure and >> micromorphology. >> > Just seeking a suggestion. For last at least three decades or so TEM >> > structures were characterized as ultrastructure and SEM structures as >> > Micromorphology in most books on Plant Systematics. Now that SEM can >> also >> > explore anatomical features, what could be an appropriate term to cover >> > these studies?. I was thinking about appropriate title for my chapter >> which >> > is now "Utrastructure and Micromorphology". >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > Retired Associate Professor >> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar < >> [email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> http://epress.anu.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/ch0811.pdf >> >> >> >> Sir you may check this. >> >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 10, 6:18 pm, Prashant Awale <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Dear Vijayasankar ji, >> >> > >> >> > I really liked this post. Its really a "divine feeling." Thanks for >> >> > this >> >> > unique post. >> >> > Regards >> >> > Prashant >> >> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Ushadi micromini >> >> > <[email protected] >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > wrote: >> >> > > Gurcharanji: >> >> > > I dont mean to correct you... >> >> > > but all are SEM..... >> >> > >> >> > > not a single one of these is a TEM.... >> >> > >> >> > > Usha di >> >> > > ========== >> >> > >> >> > > On Jan 10, 1:52 pm, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > Thanks Pankaj ji and Ushadi >> >> > > > I read second mail of Vijay ji and somehow missed looking at >> >> > > > attachments. >> >> > > > Thanks for bringing it to my notice. >> >> > >> >> > > > Should we say >> >> > > > First picture is SEM of leaf showing trichomes >> >> > > > Second and third picture are TEM of cells showing crystals >> >> > > > 4th again seems to be SEM >> >> >> >> > >> >> > > > -- >> >> > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> >> > > > Retired Associate Professor >> >> > > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> >> > > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> >> > > > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: >> >> > > > 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> >> > >> >> > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Ushadi micromini < >> >> > > [email protected] >> >> > >> >> > > > > wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > > > Gurcharanji: >> >> > > > > if you go to abridged summary that came this morning and go to >> the >> >> > > > > first email... its from Raman... and its title is :" My >> Flora >> >> > > > > Picture of the Year 2011: Vijayasankar Raman " >> >> > >> >> > > > > there you scroll down ... and just above my first comment ... >> are >> >> > > > > the >> >> > > > > SEM pics ... i was asking about... >> >> > >> >> > > > > Is n't it wonderful.... >> >> > > > > ??? >> >> > >> >> > > > > love it >> >> > > > > Usha di >> >> > > > > ============ >> >> > >> >> > > > > On Jan 10, 1:37 pm, ushadi Micromini < >> [email protected]> >> >> >> >> > > > > wrote: >> >> > > > > > Thanks Pankaj... >> >> > > > > > crystals I could tell... >> >> > >> >> > > > > > My q to Vijaya was / is : is it cell wall... that's so rigid >> >> > > > > > and >> >> > > forming >> >> > > > > > the rhomboid spongy looking mesh... >> >> > >> >> > > > > > usha di >> >> > > > > > ======== >> >> > >> >> > > > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Pankaj Kumar < >> >> > > [email protected] >> >> >> >> > > > > >wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > Mam, 2nd and third pics show crystals (raphides) inside the >> >> > > > > > > cell. >> >> > > > > > > These crystals as well as their structure sometimes form a >> >> > > > > > > good >> >> > > > > > > taxonomic character of groups. >> >> > > > > > > Pankaj >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Ushadi micromini >> >> > > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > > Dear Vijayashankar: >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > A I am so excited ... >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > 1: first for you, this will add some new or deeper >> >> > > > > > > > insights >> >> > > to >> >> > > > > > > > your ongoing studies.... but of course you knew that...! >> >> > > > > > > > 2: I am excited for myself and the whole of >> eflora >> >> > > family... >> >> > > > > > > > we will get to see the botanical specimen in further >> >> > > > > > > > details... >> >> > > as >> >> > > > > and >> >> > > > > > > > when you share your finds... >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > ================== >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > B: >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > Now, you will be Vijyashankar micromini .... >> >> > > > > > > > instead of / in addition to me... >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > the micromini epithet was attached to my name by a few >> >> > > > > > > > friends >> >> > > and >> >> > > > > > > > colleagues a couple or three decades ago because I was >> fond >> >> > > > > > > > of >> >> > > doing >> >> > > > > > > > TEM and SEM of tumors etc....and ribosome...and >> >> > > > > > > > mitochondria... >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > ======== >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > C: and this the question section :-) >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > the first pic is surface of leaf..... i imagine.... >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > but what are 2 and 3rd pictures of ... a fracture of >> what? >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > is it of a leaf and the rhoboid? structures cell walls... >> >> > > > > > > > with >> >> > > > > > > > crystals etc inside? >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > ============== >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > just cant stop smiling.... what a great new dimension >> to >> >> > > > > > > > our >> >> > > > > > > > interaction will this make.... >> >> > > > > > > > wonderful for all of us... >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > and congratulations for learning the techniques... >> >> > > > > > > > ushadi >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > ========== >> >> > > > > > > > ps does this grow in mississipi??? >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > ================= >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > > On Jan 10, 12:44 pm, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > > > > > > >> Thanks, Vijayasankar ji, >> >> > > > > > > >> Wonderly different idea & picture. >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> For others: >> >> > > > > > > >> Scanning Electron Microscopy (SEM): >> >> > >> >> > > >> http://serc.carleton.edu/research_education/geochemsheets/techniques/. >> >> > > > > .. >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> A link for Scanning electron microscope: >> >> > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanning_electron_microscope >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> On 10 January 2012 05:15, Vijayasankar < >> >> > > [email protected]> >> >> > > > > > > wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > Dear all >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > Here is yet another b&w picture as 'my flora picture >> of >> >> > > > > > > >> > the >> >> > > year >> >> > > > > > > 2011'. >> >> > > > > > > >> > I am not sure if this is suitable for this title, >> though. >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > But this is my first ever SEM picture :) It was my >> >> > > > > dream....finally >> >> > > > > > > came >> >> > > > > > > >> > true! It was a great experience to learn the >> techniques >> >> > > without a >> >> > > > > > > tutor >> >> > > > > > > >> > (but now I am helping many...). >> >> > > > > > > >> > The picture shows glandular and non-glandular >> trichomes >> >> > > > > > > >> > from >> >> > > leaf >> >> > > > > of >> >> > > > > > > >> > Salvia divinorum, a psychoactive plant endemic to >> Mexico. >> >> > > > > > > >> > I recorded 5 types and 33 sub-types of trichomes >> (some of >> >> > > > > > > >> > them >> >> > > > > are new >> >> > > > > > > >> > reports), from a single leaf, thanks to SEM... >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > Regards >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > Vijayasankar Raman >> >> > > > > > > >> > National Center for Natural Products Research >> >> > > > > > > >> > University of Mississippi >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> -- >> >> > > > > > > >> With regards, >> >> > > > > > > >> J.M.Garg ([email protected]) >> >> > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> >> > > > > > > >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> >> > > > > > > >> The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a >> >> > > > > > > >> *thousand >> >> > > > > > > species* & >> >> > > > > > > >> eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> >> > > (arranged >> >> > > > > > > >> alphabetically & place-wise): >> >> > > > > > >http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You >> can >> >> > > > > > > also >> >> > > use >> >> > > > > them >> >> > > > > > > >> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with >> each >> >> > > image. >> >> > > > > > > >> For identification, learning, discussion & >> documentation of >> >> > > Indian >> >> > > > > > > Flora, >> >> > > > > > > >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix(morethan1760members& >> >> > > > > > > >> 1,00,000 messages on 21/12/11) or Efloraofindia website: >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/(withaspeciesdatabase >> >> > > > > > > >> of more than 6000 species). >> >> > > > > > > >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & >> >> > > > > > > >> Common >> >> > > Birds >> >> > > > > of >> >> > > > > > > >> India'. >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > -- >> >> > >> >> > > >> ********************************************************************** >> >> > > > > > > "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >> > > > > > > Conservation Officer >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > Office: >> >> > > > > > > Orchid Conservation Section >> >> > > > > > > Flora Conservation Department >> >> > > > > > > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> >> > > > > > > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > Residence: >> >> > > > > > > 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> >> > > > > > > Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> > >> >> > > > > > > email: [email protected] >> >> > > > > > > [email protected] >> >> > > > > > > [email protected] >> >> > > > > > > Phone:+852 2483 >> >> > > > > > > 7128begin_of_the_skype_highlighting +852 2483 >> 7128 (office - >> >> > > > > > > 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> >> > > > > > > +852 9436 >> >> > > > > > > 6251begin_of_the_skype_highlighting +852 9436 >> 6251 (mobile) >> >> > >> >> > > > > > -- >> >> > > > > > Usha di >> >> > > > > > =========== >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> ********************************************************************** >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> Conservation Officer >> >> Office: >> Orchid Conservation Section >> Flora Conservation Department >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> Residence: >> 36c, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> email: [email protected] >> [email protected] >> [email protected] >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> +852 9436 6251 (mobile) >> > >
