Quoting the original text Since it *(i.e.Spiranthes honkongensis)* was first described, this species has largely been ignored by subsequent authors who have referred it to synonymy of Spiranthes sinensis. However, Hu and Barretto (Chung Chi J. 13(2): 4–6. 1976) identified the often densely glandular pubescent rachis, glandular pubescent floral bracts and sepals, and the broad, distinctly 3-lobed stigma as clear morphological characters that distinguish it from S. sinensis.
-- "Often densely glandular pubescent rachis" is for S. honkongensis not for S.sinensis. "Often" is with meaning in this line. I repeat Often is not synonym for Always. regards Pankaj Oudhia On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > There is a reason why I said that. Because, > 1. People think that Spiranthes sinensis is often pubescent so they > described both glabrous one and the non glabrous one as S. sinensis. > 2. But according to the original descriptions only the glabrous one should > have been Spiranthes sinensis. > 3. On the contrary, Spiranthes australis and Spiranthes hongkongensis are > pubescent and sometimes even with glandular hairs. So the plant with hairs > from India cant be sinensis. > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > >> There is a reason why I said that. Because, >> 1. People think that Spiranthes sinensis is often pubescent so they >> described both glabrous one and the non glabrous one as S. sinensis. >> 2. But to the original descriptions only the glabrous one should have >> been Spiranthes sinensis. >> 3. O >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Thanks. I am quoting your two statements from this thread. >>> >>> Earlier >>> >>> >>> "S. sinensis is not supposed to be pubescent originally. But your plant >>> seems pubescent." >>> >>> Now >>> >>> "Often densly pubescent hairs with reference to sinensis which was often >>> present with densely pubescent hairs." >>> >>> Both are not same quotes. Isn't it? >>> >>> regards >>> >>> Pankaj Oudhia >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Pankaj Kumar >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> It has been written in different sense sir. Often densly pubescent >>>> hairs with reference to sinensis which was often present with densely >>>> pubescent hairs. >>>> So they made a new species of the one which had hairs. >>>> I have not met Mrs Barretto but happened to have met Dr Sun recently. >>>> She is the one who evoked my doubts. >>>> Best regards >>>> Pankaj >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Pankaj Oudhia >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Flora of China Vol.25. Chapter on Spiranthes. >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> >>>>> Pankaj Oudhia >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Which reference are you talking about? >>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, 8 December 2009 00:47:53 UTC+8, Gurcharan Singh wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sending Spiranthes sinensis (Pers.) Ames (syn: S. australis (R. Br.) >>>>>>> Lindley) from Manali, HP >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pankaj ji and Nayan ji, one of the very few orchids I know, and that >>>>>>> too if it is correct identity. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ********************************************************************** >>>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>>> >>>> >>>> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >>>> Conservation Officer >>>> >>>> Office: >>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>> >>>> Residence: >>>> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>> >>>> email: [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>> [email protected] >>>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251(mobile). >>>> Fax: +852 >>>> 2483 7194 >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ********************************************************************** >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >> Conservation Officer >> >> Office: >> Orchid Conservation Section >> Flora Conservation Department >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> Residence: >> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> email: [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected] >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251(mobile). >> Fax: +852 >> 2483 7194 >> > > > > -- > ********************************************************************** > "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" > > > Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. > Conservation Officer > > Office: > Orchid Conservation Section > Flora Conservation Department > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > Residence: > 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun > Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > email: [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected] > Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 > (mobile). 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