On Tue, Feb 12, 2008 at 03:40:34PM -0700, Bruce Rothermal wrote:

> I thought the opensolaris was to be open to the world community to 
> contribute what they thought was interesting and valuable and what we 
> Sun thought was interesting and valuable would be in Sun Solaris. I 
> guess I was wrong.

This is a false dichotomy.  Everyone (regardless of employer) may
contribute, whether or not any corporation wants to sell the result.
That does not mean anyone (regardless of employer) is allowed to
scribble all over the OpenSolaris consolidations.  There's a process,
under the control of the engineering community, that must be followed
for making changes to them.  If you don't care to integrate into a
consolidation, you can do whatever you want, but your work won't be a
part of our code base.  How is this different from any other open
development community?  I can't tell whether people deliberately
confuse "Sun vs. not Sun" with "controlled change vs. random change"
in order to stir up pointless controversy or it's really just not
clear enough.  It's not a subtle point.  Suggestions for improving
communication are always welcome.

And in case you were tempted to think otherwise (it seems you were), I
NEVER speak for SMI, only as an individual OpenSolaris engineer.  So
when I say "we" on these lists, I always mean "the OpenSolaris
Community", and when I say "our consolidations" I mean "the code base
in which we do our engineering work", not "the software SMI chooses to
brand and sell as the Solaris Operating Environment".  Clear?

P.S.  Surely we don't need to cross-post to 4 different lists.  Yet
I'm struggling to figure out where your questions would actually be on
topic.  Meta-discussion about the ARC process belongs on arc-discuss.
Meta-discussion about governance belongs on ogb-discuss.  Topical
discussion of the specific project in question belongs on its
discussion list or on that of its sponsoring CG.  Perhaps it's best to
just drop this entire thread and let the project team work out the
technical issues among themselves and with the ARC, raising governance
appeals to the OGB if later found to be necessary.

-- 
Keith M Wesolowski              "Sir, we're surrounded!" 
Fishworks                       "Excellent; we can attack in any direction!" 

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