On 3/10/2014 9:56 AM, Scott Brim wrote:
On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 12:34 PM, Behcet Sarikaya
<[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Brian,

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Brian E Carpenter
<[email protected]> wrote:

a) Since this is fixing some of the damage done by NAT, it's
really unfinished business for BEHAVE, which if iirc was a
Transport Area WG. Just saying...

b) The word "privacy" doesn't appear in the draft. Discussing
privacy aspects is clearly essential if there is any thought of
advancing this work. Actually I doubt if such a host ID is ever
going to be acceptable from a privacy point of view, unless the
end system is at liberty to change it at random (like RFC 4941).

Scott Brim said there are no privacy issues.

I said I don't believe this introduces any NEW privacy issues, as long
as host-ids change at least as often as IP addresses. I hope you will
get other opinions. I just might be wrong, eh?

Host-IDs might change a lot less often - to retain a persistent ID across such changes - or more often.

I don't think we can or should assume either one. We might assume that it should be under app-layer control, at which point the ball's in the user's court as to how to manage their own privacy.

That's worth pointing out, but AFAICT unless there's active user management to the contrary it can't be worse than an IP address wuold have been (but it might defeat a network edge from trying to protect internal users/services).

Joe

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