Well D2 can be put in D3D mode (its even default for it) but then again the only time I ever got around 60FPS was with IEGD drivers
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 1:37 AM, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote: > well, UT2004 is a good game to test with....Diablo II uses DDraw if im not > mistaken.... > ive seen the async thingy in almost every intel stock driver juz it's > defaulted to 0 or async is enabled... > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Espionage724 <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> A good way to test is for someone to run a dx game that runs at 60FPS >> constantly (or whatever the refresh rate is). Diablo II is a good game >> to try maybe. UT99 with the D3D9 render might work as well. >> >> But where did the Async thing come from Neo? was it in another driver >> from intel? >> >> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Espionage724 <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > I also agree its a good driver, but I don't understand either... >> > >> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:48 PM, AngelicTears <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> Async disable v-sync directly from install, same result can >> >> be achieved by adjusting the setting in openGL 3D setting, *maybe* >> >> as for the 64bit, yeah, MSI doesnt work well with MSI enabled, my V1.1 >> >> 64-bit also doesnt include that, as 64 bit bandwidth are optimized >> >> enough >> >> for performance...32bit on the other hand need MSI to achieved the same >> >> result...but something im curious about, how that Neo's driver actually >> >> improves windows 7 GDI rendering (font, aero, etc) >> >> i stand by what i said before, this IS a good driver, i juz dont know >> >> how u >> >> did it Neo ^^ >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Espionage724 <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Exact same changes almost, only difference is the MSI thing, which >> >>> doesn't exist in the stock inf, but its in the sigma3 (but its >> >>> disabled). >> >>> >> >>> But if I'm correct, then the only thing these drivers do is change >> >>> something with SViO (or whatever its called), HDMI Timings, and some >> >>> Async thing. >> >>> >> >>> And if I also read right, the Async thing just disables vertical sync. >> >>> >> >>> I could be wrong though... >> >>> >> >>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Espionage724 >> >>> <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> > Well if you want me to check the 64-bit version as well... then so >> >>> > be it >> >>> > :p >> >>> > >> >>> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 9:39 PM, NeoDragon <[email protected]> >> >>> > wrote: >> >>> >> The MSI was "re-added" on the x64( it was removed by Intel themself >> >>> >> in >> >>> >> the x64 ) but not enabled. It actually decreased performance and >> >>> >> added >> >>> >> a few lag spike so I decided not to enable it for this release >> >>> >> until I >> >>> >> or someone else found a way to make it work like it should >> >>> >> (Something >> >>> >> your little program didn't catch up because you've checked the >> >>> >> 32-bit >> >>> >> version wich I haven't test AT ALL. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Apr 23, 8:14 pm, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> lol :p >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:10 PM, AngelicTears >> >>> >>> <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> wrote: >> >>> >>> > lol, espi, im curious juz like u are, but i dont have much free >> >>> >>> > time >> >>> >>> > nowadays.... >> >>> >>> > there are certain different from my V1.1 though... >> >>> >>> > ofcoz the names change, async thngy, and others mention in ur >> >>> >>> > doc, >> >>> >>> > but im >> >>> >>> > not seeing the the Message Signaled Interrupt being enabled in >> >>> >>> > Sigma >> >>> >>> > 3....and some features that i need to find in depth (lol, in >> >>> >>> > depth >> >>> >>> > or word >> >>> >>> > of the WEEK LOL).. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Espionage724 >> >>> >>> > <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> > wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> Well I probably would of missed the Score thing and the async >> >>> >>> >> thing >> >>> >>> >> :p >> >>> >>> >> Plus i now know that such a program exists. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> Anyway, if it boosts performance for others, then I guess thats >> >>> >>> >> cool, >> >>> >>> >> I just wanted to know what was exactly changed to try to use it >> >>> >>> >> on >> >>> >>> >> my >> >>> >>> >> XP MD. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> Also if I heard correctly, I think this actually might count as >> >>> >>> >> a >> >>> >>> >> driver by itself, which means it would of taken up that one >> >>> >>> >> driver >> >>> >>> >> spot we had. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:30 PM, NeoDragon >> >>> >>> >> <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> > Its only EC not EC 6, also this is the quick 32bit one I've >> >>> >>> >> > did >> >>> >>> >> > ;) . >> >>> >>> >> > The one I sent you personally added another 2 function >> >>> >>> >> > specially >> >>> >>> >> > for >> >>> >>> >> > your Device ID. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> > You used a program to actually check the changed things...... >> >>> >>> >> > -_- >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> > On Apr 23, 3:36 pm, Espionage724 <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> >> > wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >> No deleted is red with a cross through it, and then next to >> >>> >>> >> >> it >> >>> >>> >> >> is the >> >>> >>> >> >> changed character. Green is added. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> [i965GM1] >> >>> >>> >> >> FeatureScore=EC 6 >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> On Apr 23, 6:35 pm, Espionage724 <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > Recommended to just download the .doc instead of trying to >> >>> >>> >> >> > use >> >>> >>> >> >> > google >> >>> >>> >> >> > viewer or HTML to view. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > Changes are in green, deleted is in red. Or maybe added is >> >>> >>> >> >> > in >> >>> >>> >> >> > green, >> >>> >>> >> >> > idk >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > On Apr 23, 6:33 pm, Espionage724 <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> >> >> > wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > Differences are inside the DOC file of the 965 stock vs >> >>> >>> >> >> > > Sigma 3 >> >>> >>> >> >> > > (x86) >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Espionage724 >> >>> >>> >> >> > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > In the x86 versions of the Sigma 3 and 965 package >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > from >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > intel, >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > the >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > only difference is >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > - Async option >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > - Memory >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > - Named drivers >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > theres a few other minor changes, I'll find em later >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Espionage724 >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >> Well i only quickly analyzed the INF but now I guess >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >> ill >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >> do a >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >> more >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >> indeph look :p >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:33 PM, NeoDragon >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> As I said earlier , info on that won't be released >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> to >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> public >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> just >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> yet ;) . But, I'm kinda ashamed that you can't see >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> what's >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> changed by >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> yourself..... >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> On Apr 23, 12:06 pm, Espionage724 >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> But wait? Nobody still never answered what was >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> changed >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> in the >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> INF lol. >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> because in theroy, 965 users could use Alpha >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> drivers >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> and still >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> get the >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> same performance as sigma 3. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> I'mma go find out for myself what Sigma 2 was based >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> on >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> here... >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:00 PM, NeoDragon >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > @Gerard : These are 965 Drivers.... I told people >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > that they >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > might >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > wanna try, but It's not a 100% sure that you're >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > gonna >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > be >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > able to >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > install it under the 950 ( or for the matter get >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > all >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > the >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > tweaks ) >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > @DanielPk: Play with the 3DSettings in the intel >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > control >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > Panel. I >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > found that using the "Driver memory footprint" in >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > low >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > usually gives >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > you a good boost for opengl . Might wanna try >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > putting >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > Asynchronous on >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > ( V-Sync ) wich should help quite a bit too. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > On Apr 23, 7:25 am, DanielPK >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> @Irony: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> bro, i manage the site, and the links are >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> UPDATED "i >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> haven't included >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> Sigma 3.0 YET as we still need more testings" >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> but..am not >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> sure at >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> all..that is pretty strange :S >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> @Everyone: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> Sigma 3.0 INSTALLED fine under my following >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> specs: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> Windows7 x86 7600 OEM >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> T5500 core 2 duo >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> 3GB Ram >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> GMA950 "Sigma 3.0" >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> and ever since last week, my laptop's been >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> running >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> fine..though, the >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> only performance increase i found was under >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> NFS7/8...i >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> tested OpenGL >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> under CS 1.6 and the game still lags like **** >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> :( am >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> getting CS:S and >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> WoW to do more testings. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> The new IMPROVED "reg" tweak is giving lots of >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> performance >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> increase >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> indeed...now i was gonna test the "reg" tweak on >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> Alpha >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> drives to see >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> if the Sigma 3.0 really is better with or >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> without >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> this >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> "reg" tweak but >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> i didn't have the time :( i'll be trying it >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> ASAP. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> Also...i've got a problem running two games "NOT >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> BECAUSE OF >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> THE >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> DRIVER" CS 1.6 exits suddenly after like 2-3 >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> minutes >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> of >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> game >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> play...and it doesn't just happen once or >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> twice...i >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> get >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> bored of >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> trying it again and again....and again...unless >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> i >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> set >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> HL.exe to a HIGH >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> CPU PRIORITY...the game would keep on CTD now >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> and >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> then....also, L4D >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> seems to be giving me quite the trouble >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> too...just >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> after >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> the game >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> reaches the loading part it also goes to CTD, >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> re-installed >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> it many >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> times...but still same ****...if anybody have >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> idea >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> on how >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> to fix the >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> issues, i'd really appreciate it :) >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> On Apr 23, 7:46 pm, Gerard >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > The drivers were actually worse. The new .reg >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > is >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > what is >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > great lol. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > On Apr 23, 7:04 pm, Espionage724 >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > your saying L4D runs better with these >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > drivers >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > then >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > Alpha? >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > I barely noticed a difference in inf files >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > when >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > compared to Alpha. >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > Thats just me though. But was was changed >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > 965 >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > and 945 >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > users? Like what >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > inf settings? >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Gerard >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > > installed on 950, but installer doesn't >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > > work. >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > > With >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > > new .reg l4d is >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > > playable! >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > > On Apr 23, 11:19 am, NeoDragon >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> I don't think so :) >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> On Apr 22, 6:21 pm, Espionage724 >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > Hmm, does anyone here remember when >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > MAD_BEAST said >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > that we only had 1 >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > spot for new drivers? Since updates for >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > older >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > drivers isn't allowed, >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > doesn't that mean that its now taken up >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > by >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > Sigma >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > 3.0? >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:10 PM, >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > NeoDragon >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > As of today I'll be a bit less here, >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > my >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > new job >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > is starting tomorrow >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > ( believe it or not, I plant tree's >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > in >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > the >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > spring/summer, so your kids >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > can actually have some air to >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > breathe... >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > and >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > it's good for my wallet >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > too XD ) but I'll stop by everynow >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > and >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > then to >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > see what's going on. >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > Keep the idea's coming and in order, >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > cause I >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > already have some good >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > idea's for the next Drivers :). Don't >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > expect >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > them until Intel release >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > an official updated driver package >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > first >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > tho, as >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > we need them to fix >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > some of the **** work they're known >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > to be >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > doing. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > Oh, and make sure you try Sigma 3.0 >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > !!! >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > =) >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > On Apr 20, 1:25 am, IronyTaken >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > >> I use Windows 7 and I downloaded the >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > >> Alpha >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > >> drivers from the site. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > >>http://9xxssf.info/downloads/ >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > >> On Apr 19, 7:56 pm, DanielPK >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > >> <[email protected]> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> > > >> > >> > @lolattheotherguy & Espi >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> ... >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> read more » >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >>> >> INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Subscription settings: >> >>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/intel9x-gaming/subscribe?hl=en >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > -- >> >>> > Espionage724 Has A Signature... >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Espionage724 Has A Signature... >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >> >> >> >> -- >> >> INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Espionage724 Has A Signature... >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Espionage724 Has A Signature... >> >> -- >> INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS > > -- > INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS > -- Espionage724 Has A Signature... -- INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS
