So wait, Async makes games run at a stable FPS? Is it a random stable FPS or is it equal to refresh rate? or is it like if my game ran at 20-30FPS, it would make it run at 25?
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 9:50 PM, NeoDragon <[email protected]> wrote: > The Async isn't included in the x64 driver, had to add it. You *Can* > turn off Async with the 3Dsettings yes, but It'll only work for > opengl. By disabling it via the driver itself, it is disabled by > default in everything ( as far as I've tested ) , and you don't want > the async to screw up with your framerates don't you! ( Async basicly > makes your game at a "stable" fps , but you also don't get all the fps > you could get as It diminish it to a lower value to keep it "steady" > > On Apr 25, 5:17 am, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote: >> Well D2 can be put in D3D mode (its even default for it) but then >> again the only time I ever got around 60FPS was with IEGD drivers >> >> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 1:37 AM, AngelicTears <[email protected]> wrote: >> > well, UT2004 is a good game to test with....Diablo II uses DDraw if im not >> > mistaken.... >> > ive seen the async thingy in almost every intel stock driver juz it's >> > defaulted to 0 or async is enabled... >> > On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:20 AM, Espionage724 <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> A good way to test is for someone to run a dx game that runs at 60FPS >> >> constantly (or whatever the refresh rate is). Diablo II is a good game >> >> to try maybe. UT99 with the D3D9 render might work as well. >> >> >> But where did the Async thing come from Neo? was it in another driver >> >> from intel? >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 11:09 PM, Espionage724 <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> > I also agree its a good driver, but I don't understand either... >> >> >> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:48 PM, AngelicTears <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> Async disable v-sync directly from install, same result can >> >> >> be achieved by adjusting the setting in openGL 3D setting, *maybe* >> >> >> as for the 64bit, yeah, MSI doesnt work well with MSI enabled, my V1.1 >> >> >> 64-bit also doesnt include that, as 64 bit bandwidth are optimized >> >> >> enough >> >> >> for performance...32bit on the other hand need MSI to achieved the same >> >> >> result...but something im curious about, how that Neo's driver actually >> >> >> improves windows 7 GDI rendering (font, aero, etc) >> >> >> i stand by what i said before, this IS a good driver, i juz dont know >> >> >> how u >> >> >> did it Neo ^^ >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Espionage724 <[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Exact same changes almost, only difference is the MSI thing, which >> >> >>> doesn't exist in the stock inf, but its in the sigma3 (but its >> >> >>> disabled). >> >> >> >>> But if I'm correct, then the only thing these drivers do is change >> >> >>> something with SViO (or whatever its called), HDMI Timings, and some >> >> >>> Async thing. >> >> >> >>> And if I also read right, the Async thing just disables vertical sync. >> >> >> >>> I could be wrong though... >> >> >> >>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Espionage724 >> >> >>> <[email protected]> >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >>> > Well if you want me to check the 64-bit version as well... then so >> >> >>> > be it >> >> >>> > :p >> >> >> >>> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 9:39 PM, NeoDragon <[email protected]> >> >> >>> > wrote: >> >> >>> >> The MSI was "re-added" on the x64( it was removed by Intel themself >> >> >>> >> in >> >> >>> >> the x64 ) but not enabled. It actually decreased performance and >> >> >>> >> added >> >> >>> >> a few lag spike so I decided not to enable it for this release >> >> >>> >> until I >> >> >>> >> or someone else found a way to make it work like it should >> >> >>> >> (Something >> >> >>> >> your little program didn't catch up because you've checked the >> >> >>> >> 32-bit >> >> >>> >> version wich I haven't test AT ALL. >> >> >> >>> >> On Apr 23, 8:14 pm, Espionage724 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> lol :p >> >> >> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:10 PM, AngelicTears >> >> >>> >>> <[email protected]> >> >> >>> >>> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> > lol, espi, im curious juz like u are, but i dont have much free >> >> >>> >>> > time >> >> >>> >>> > nowadays.... >> >> >>> >>> > there are certain different from my V1.1 though... >> >> >>> >>> > ofcoz the names change, async thngy, and others mention in ur >> >> >>> >>> > doc, >> >> >>> >>> > but im >> >> >>> >>> > not seeing the the Message Signaled Interrupt being enabled in >> >> >>> >>> > Sigma >> >> >>> >>> > 3....and some features that i need to find in depth (lol, in >> >> >>> >>> > depth >> >> >>> >>> > or word >> >> >>> >>> > of the WEEK LOL).. >> >> >> >>> >>> > On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Espionage724 >> >> >>> >>> > <[email protected]> >> >> >>> >>> > wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> >> Well I probably would of missed the Score thing and the async >> >> >>> >>> >> thing >> >> >>> >>> >> :p >> >> >>> >>> >> Plus i now know that such a program exists. >> >> >> >>> >>> >> Anyway, if it boosts performance for others, then I guess thats >> >> >>> >>> >> cool, >> >> >>> >>> >> I just wanted to know what was exactly changed to try to use it >> >> >>> >>> >> on >> >> >>> >>> >> my >> >> >>> >>> >> XP MD. >> >> >> >>> >>> >> Also if I heard correctly, I think this actually might count as >> >> >>> >>> >> a >> >> >>> >>> >> driver by itself, which means it would of taken up that one >> >> >>> >>> >> driver >> >> >>> >>> >> spot we had. >> >> >> >>> >>> >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:30 PM, NeoDragon >> >> >>> >>> >> <[email protected]> >> >> >>> >>> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >> > Its only EC not EC 6, also this is the quick 32bit one I've >> >> >>> >>> >> > did >> >> >>> >>> >> > ;) . >> >> >>> >>> >> > The one I sent you personally added another 2 function >> >> >>> >>> >> > specially >> >> >>> >>> >> > for >> >> >>> >>> >> > your Device ID. >> >> >> >>> >>> >> > You used a program to actually check the changed things...... >> >> >>> >>> >> > -_- >> >> >> >>> >>> >> > On Apr 23, 3:36 pm, Espionage724 <[email protected]> >> >> >>> >>> >> > wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >> >> No deleted is red with a cross through it, and then next to >> >> >>> >>> >> >> it >> >> >>> >>> >> >> is the >> >> >>> >>> >> >> changed character. Green is added. >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> [i965GM1] >> >> >>> >>> >> >> FeatureScore=EC 6 >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> On Apr 23, 6:35 pm, Espionage724 <[email protected]> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > Recommended to just download the .doc instead of trying to >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > use >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > google >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > viewer or HTML to view. >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > Changes are in green, deleted is in red. Or maybe added is >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > in >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > green, >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > idk >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > On Apr 23, 6:33 pm, Espionage724 <[email protected]> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > Differences are inside the DOC file of the 965 stock vs >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > Sigma 3 >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > (x86) >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Espionage724 >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > In the x86 versions of the Sigma 3 and 965 package >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > from >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > intel, >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > the >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > only difference is >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > - Async option >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > - Memory >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > - Named drivers >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > theres a few other minor changes, I'll find em later >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Espionage724 >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >> Well i only quickly analyzed the INF but now I guess >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >> ill >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >> do a >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >> more >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >> indeph look :p >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 5:33 PM, NeoDragon >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> As I said earlier , info on that won't be released >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> to >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> public >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> just >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> yet ;) . But, I'm kinda ashamed that you can't see >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> what's >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> changed by >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> yourself..... >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> On Apr 23, 12:06 pm, Espionage724 >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> <[email protected]> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> But wait? Nobody still never answered what was >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> changed >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> in the >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> INF lol. >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> because in theroy, 965 users could use Alpha >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> drivers >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> and still >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> get the >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> same performance as sigma 3. >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> I'mma go find out for myself what Sigma 2 was based >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> on >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> here... >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 1:00 PM, NeoDragon >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > @Gerard : These are 965 Drivers.... I told people >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > that they >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > might >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > wanna try, but It's not a 100% sure that you're >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > gonna >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > be >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > able to >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > install it under the 950 ( or for the matter get >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > all >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > the >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > tweaks ) >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > @DanielPk: Play with the 3DSettings in the intel >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > control >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > Panel. I >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > found that using the "Driver memory footprint" in >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > low >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > usually gives >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > you a good boost for opengl . Might wanna try >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > putting >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > Asynchronous on >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > ( V-Sync ) wich should help quite a bit too. >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > On Apr 23, 7:25 am, DanielPK >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > <[email protected]> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> > wrote: >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> @Irony: >> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> bro, i manage the site, and the links are >> >> >>> >>> >> >> > > >>>> >> UPDATED "i >> >> ... >> >> read more » > > -- > INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS > > Subscription settings: > http://groups.google.com/group/intel9x-gaming/subscribe?hl=en > -- Espionage724 Has A Signature... -- INTEL 9xx SOLDIERS SANS FRONTIERS
