> -----Original Message----- > From: Andrea Faulds [mailto:a...@ajf.me] > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 10:09 AM > To: Zeev Suraski > Cc: bis...@php.net; PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] intdiv() > > > On 17 Jul 2014, at 08:02, Zeev Suraski <z...@zend.com> wrote: > > > I think it is, given I believe it's the first time people are asking > > for this after PHP's been out for almost two decades... > > As the RFC itself suggests, you can use the current division for most > > use cases, including the ones mentioned above - they'd work in the > > vast majority of cases. > > Yes, but as previously mentioned, beyond 2^52 it breaks down. What's more > worrying is the code out there written by people obviously unaware of this, > but I shouldn't use MtGox's incompetence as a reason to fix PHP ;) > > > I think the RFC should mention that it's already possible to do it > > using bcmath or gmp; > > It's not possible to do with bcmath or gmp within the brief of "find the > quotient of the division of two longs without requiring an extension". Neither > bcmath nor gmp is core PHP, and neither operate on longs, though you can be > silly and convert a long to a string, in bcmath's case, or a gmp object, in gmp's > case, then do the operation, then convert back, checking for the two failure > cases, of course.
It's still possible to do. When people vote on a new feature the full context should be clear. Again, I'm supporting your RFC (in its original form at least) - but we should provide as much information as possible in the RFC to give voters the full context. > > That said, I tend to agree that we should have something like that in > > ext/standard, so I'm actually in favor of doing it - just not as an > > operator. > > Well, that's better than nothing I suppose, but I'd still rather use something > infix. PHP's not Perl. Let's keep it that way please... > > To be honest, that operator was simply copied verbatim from Perl, back > > in the day when Perl ruled the Web world and minimizing the learning > > curve for Perl developers was an important goal. Not sure if we'd add > > it to the language had we not 'plagiarized' it from Perl. > > Huh? ** was added by an RFC this year. Actually, since 5.6 isn't out yet, it's > technically not part of PHP yet... OK, this RFC passed well under my radar. I thought we had it forever, and indeed I never found a reason to use it :) I'd probably vote against it if I was aware of it, but given it's common in other languages, I wouldn't have strongly opposed it. I don't think it makes sense to add a specialized integer division operator when we do have a different division operator, and I don't think other dynamic languages have such an operator - so unlike **, there's no established precedent... Zeev -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
