On Mon, 29 Apr 2019 at 16:53, Zeev Suraski <z...@php.net> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 5:19 PM Dan Ackroyd <dan...@basereality.com> > wrote: > > Please stop doing this. > > I will gladly do so, once the project starts behaving responsibly again. >
Honnestly, this comment right here Zeev just makes me want to not compromise at all. I think you seriously lost any hope there was that I'm going to put back this to a vote. Why the hell should I start compromising with someone who thinks the project, and by extensions the contributors to the project small or large, don't behave responsibly?! You say that this deprecation is an insult to our legacy users but you just casually insult (at least in my mind) the people who make this project live on. Or are you just remicinent of ye olden days where core devs decided willy nilly what ever they want to do with the project? Because I though the whole idea behind the RFC process is to prevent this "closed club" of core dev who can decide whatever they want. Also you go on about how 2/3 majority is to small when you self used even lower margins to get RFCs accepted. From what I know nothing prevented you to asked a 90% acceptance rate on all the RFCs that you proposed/co-authored if you felt that strong about "consensus" as the Voting process, to my understanding, only asks for minimums. And if you think I'm being unreasonable here, well I'm not because my RFC passed fair and square while having a longer period then what was required at the time (which funnily enough you also love having small voting windows). And do you think it would have been resonable of me to come complaining about how my vote failed if there would have only been 66% in favor instead of the 2/3? You would have had no problem then to say that it failed no more discussion needed instead of draging this along for about a week after the vote ended. I was willing to compromise a lot but with all the respect I have for you Zeev, your sheer arogance just made any major compromise not a thing I want to pursue anymore. I'll accept amendments to how the deprecation is handled and implemented with any ideas that may arise on the nikic's thread on how to handle it. And if an RFC amendment is needed I will personaly only accept a vote on HOW this RFC is implemented and not a vote on IF this should be done. And if you are not happy with this, blame yourself. Best regards George P. Banyard
